From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Hcipq-00059E-LO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:02:39 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3EE0Jlk004711; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:00:19 GMT Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l3EDtSIS030753 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:55:29 GMT Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a29so871677pyi for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 06:55:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QU1xx9zjHFYgM1Z8sEU3vpqTrMAsx7V3RzeEE+mrkrVT0SEALVOY/4jiLU7//NBpGHddUQj28fvhBxyY+ORejNrDN+1ZSNLAQe3g+Qsxj/qZItfDWbWcLc7Wp9v7Zgr3+pHuz/kBC2BfjIN726sYQWy/Px5mI9XS39QfjHGPi0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W5OlxA+o2oRZPEdoZnQOk39EALBiv4YliVhP+IIZKMQV7a3z5AshbVxFa3U5Tc4wvuz/RXGJddmY0lR1KtHediOStXmnMrxDfMmHSd4xoY4BTRgJvHAnbZ6WolpGEyApMfGXHge9BLfSeemLNapcBGbg1BWssKymoHWs8p6JIBI= Received: by 10.65.54.9 with SMTP id g9mr8277303qbk.1176558928710; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 06:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.203.4 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 06:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <642958cc0704140655k5f7ba2d3q999253933214ec39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:55:27 -0400 From: "Mark Shields" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious In-Reply-To: <4620D583.10406@buanzo.com.ar> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24429_19062150.1176558927997" References: <1943592292-1176466053-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1537984767-@bxe008-cell00.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20070413142554.d2a95db3.hilse@web.de> <461F7862.5090002@buanzo.com.ar> <20070414145355.61bffacd.hilse@web.de> <4620D583.10406@buanzo.com.ar> X-Archives-Salt: 048f9a68-1d20-498f-bd95-482863e5ec16 X-Archives-Hash: 06ff64526b501a7921418b56251cfde2 ------=_Part_24429_19062150.1176558927997 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 4/14/07, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > > Thanks :-) And now, here I stand corrected: The thread has actually > > become a cultural excercise and social mailing list event! Maybe we > > even make it into the GWN: "Big outing party on gentoo-user" or > > similar ;-) > > OH YES :) > > > OK, I hope I adhere to the auto-adjusted standard for writing one's > > Gentoo/Linux/Computing history ;-) : > > Damn, so far your story is the msot similar to mine. Please, fellow > gentooers, allow me to extend my > bio, while quoting Hans: > > > I'm at the end of 26, using Linux since about 1996 (there was this > > Corel Linux distribution on some magazine's cover CD...), quickly > > I'm in the middle of 25, using linux since about 1994 (there was this > minilinux.zip 11MB file on > some BBS...), quickly chosing Slackware (from the famous Infomagic's Linux > Developer Resource CD > sets, I got like 4 of them), then SuSE. I never liked Debian. I used SuSE > without YaST. > > I was worn 8/2/82 (yes, at 23:32, lots of mathematical bizarreness here, > most numbers in my life > have to do with 2 and 8 :P) > I started programming at the age of 8, in a Commmodore 64 my biological > father had. Then he left, > and until 10/11 years old I couldn't get my own computer. I still remember > saving every penny I > could. In the end I got a 80286, 20/25Mhz, no HD, and 5 1/4" floppy for > AR$ 6.200.000 (like USD 620 > at that time) in 1990, 1991... I continued programming (although I did at > primary school, and the > teachers insisted on my mom to get me a computer): more quickbasic, then > turbo pascal. I wrote my > first BBS for MS-DOS in Turbo Pascal 7.0. I remember using the TurboPower > COMM libraries for it > (incidentally, my best friend in USA was one of the top programmers at > TurboPower...). A couple of > years later, I got the minilinux, then full Slackware. That's when I > decided to get my own telephone > line ("Mom, PLEASE, PLEASE, let me have my BBS! I won't dial other > BBSes!"), and started writing a > new, from scratch, BBS system: multiuser, it had instant messaging, > tree-based forums, file > attachments, private email and multiuser conference, anybody wants the > source?). It was my first > stake at C. Learning C AND Linux at the same time, at that time, provided > LOTS of OS knowledge. I > still fix most things by [spl]tracing to find out bugs, or by writing > interposers, etc. > > I was starting secondary school and decided to study electronics. That's > where assembler started. I > was bad with soldering, but good at microcontrollers :P. Although I > already knew about secure > coding, learning how to write an exploit helped a lot. > > As I was interested in Security I never dropped other OSes 100%. Of > course, all my servers run > Linux, but at home I had Microsofts' OSes and other stuff, mainly for > research purposes. I work and > play and everything under Linux. > > > > At the age of 15, I felt in love with the FIDO-Net (I was > > 2:240/6010.29, later 2:240/9301.29), only to dump my first registered > > shareware, CrossPoint, a few months later when the internet was > > starting to make its first steps in the private sector in germany. > > I was a fido point! 4:900/748.3. I was a node for 3 other networks too > (Music & Sound, Desertic and > another I can recall the name). > > > Now, I earn my little money with programming (just boring web stuff) > > and administration, while studying law (funny choice given the > > background, eh?). > > Now, I earn my little money with consulting, programming (just boring > systems stuff :P) and > administration, while playing punk-pop with my band (PLUG! PLUG > www.purevolume.com/futurabandapunkpop everything released in creative > commons license) and I never > went to university. > > In .ar I wrote many articles in different magazines, given talks on > security, programming and FLOSS, > I was 6 months in one of Cable tv's most famous technology programms > [yeah, talking and everything], > and had the chance of meeting Vinton Cerf (I had a nice talk with him, > told me I was just a living > example of why he created internet. I still have wet dreams about that.), > Richard stallman, Jon > "maddog" Hall, Roger Dingledine from the TOR project, and many other > hackers while giving a speech > about covert channels in the Bolivian hacker conference. That's as far as > I got from Buenos Aires. > > Basicly, this story is a big thank you for the GNU project, Linus Torvalds > and BIG TEAM, and > everyone else that contributed to what I've been using since the beginning > to become what I'm now. A > big geek with a potential rfc in his hands. :P > > Somebody kick me. > > - -- > Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad > Informatica > Foros GNU/Buanzo: Respeto, Soluciones y Buena Onda: > http://foros.buanzo.com.ar > Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGINWDAlpOsGhXcE0RCrGpAJ4td3rFej4aUJz7c2FRSKrVGvglIgCeOBmf > Lyr89NgEJK9QLNaRJteDDQQ= > =FjnM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > I just finished compiling to age 24 this last Sunday. I've been using Linux seriously since 2004 (when I started using Gentoo on my server); however, I've been playing around with Linux since about 2002. -- - Mark Shields ------=_Part_24429_19062150.1176558927997 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 4/14/07, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <buanzo@buanzo.com.ar> wrote:
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Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> Thanks :-) And now, here I stand corrected: The thread has actually
> become a cultural excercise and social mailing list event! Maybe we
> even make it into the GWN: "Big outing party on gentoo-user" or
> similar ;-)

OH YES :)

> OK, I hope I adhere to the auto-adjusted standard for writing one's
> Gentoo/Linux/Computing history ;-) :

Damn, so far your story is the msot similar to mine. Please, fellow gentooers, allow me to extend my
bio, while quoting Hans:

> I'm at the end of 26, using Linux since about 1996 (there was this
> Corel Linux distribution on some magazine's cover CD...), quickly

I'm in the middle of 25, using linux since about 1994 (there was this minilinux.zip 11MB file on
some BBS...), quickly chosing Slackware (from the famous Infomagic's Linux Developer Resource CD
sets, I got like 4 of them), then SuSE. I never liked Debian. I used SuSE without YaST.

I was worn 8/2/82 (yes, at 23:32, lots of mathematical bizarreness here, most numbers in my life
have to do with 2 and 8 :P)
I started programming at the age of 8, in a Commmodore 64 my biological father had. Then he left,
and until 10/11 years old I couldn't get my own computer. I still remember saving every penny I
could. In the end I got a 80286, 20/25Mhz, no HD, and 5 1/4" floppy for AR$ 6.200.000 (like USD 620
at that time) in 1990, 1991... I continued programming (although I did at primary school, and the
teachers insisted on my mom to get me a computer): more quickbasic, then turbo pascal. I wrote my
first BBS for MS-DOS in Turbo Pascal 7.0. I remember using the TurboPower COMM libraries for it
(incidentally, my best friend in USA was one of the top programmers at TurboPower...). A couple of
years later, I got the minilinux, then full Slackware. That's when I decided to get my own telephone
line ("Mom, PLEASE, PLEASE, let me have my BBS! I won't dial other BBSes!"), and started writing a
new, from scratch, BBS system: multiuser, it had instant messaging, tree-based forums, file
attachments, private email and multiuser conference, anybody wants the source?). It was my first
stake at C. Learning C AND Linux at the same time, at that time, provided LOTS of OS knowledge. I
still fix most things by [spl]tracing to find out bugs, or by writing interposers, etc.

I was starting secondary school and decided to study electronics. That's where assembler started. I
was bad with soldering, but good at microcontrollers :P. Although I already knew about secure
coding, learning how to write an exploit helped a lot.

As I was interested in Security I never dropped other OSes 100%. Of course, all my servers run
Linux, but at home I had Microsofts' OSes and other stuff, mainly for research purposes. I work and
play and everything under Linux.


> At the age of 15, I felt in love with the FIDO-Net (I was
> 2:240/6010.29, later 2:240/9301.29), only to dump my first registered
> shareware, CrossPoint, a few months later when the internet was
> starting to make its first steps in the private sector in germany.

I was a fido point! 4:900/748.3. I was a node for 3 other networks too (Music & Sound, Desertic and
another I can recall the name).

> Now, I earn my little money with programming (just boring web stuff)
> and administration, while studying law (funny choice given the
> background, eh?).

Now, I earn my little money with consulting, programming (just boring systems stuff :P) and
administration, while playing punk-pop with my band (PLUG! PLUG
www.purevolume.com/futurabandapunkpop everything released in creative commons license) and I never
went to university.

In .ar I wrote many articles in different magazines, given talks on security, programming and FLOSS,
I was 6 months in one of Cable tv's most famous technology programms [yeah, talking and everything],
and had the chance of meeting Vinton Cerf (I had a nice talk with him, told me I was just a living
example of why he created internet. I still have wet dreams about that.), Richard stallman, Jon
"maddog" Hall, Roger Dingledine from the TOR project, and many other hackers while giving a speech
about covert channels in the Bolivian hacker conference. That's as far as I got from Buenos Aires.

Basicly, this story is a big thank you for the GNU project, Linus Torvalds and BIG TEAM, and
everyone else that contributed to what I've been using since the beginning to become what I'm now. A
big geek with a potential rfc in his hands. :P

Somebody kick me.

- --
Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica
Foros GNU/Buanzo: Respeto, Soluciones y Buena Onda: http://foros.buanzo.com.ar
Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/
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