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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:26:55 -0400
From: Mark Shields <laebshade@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] To emerge -e world or not to emerge -e world?
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Depending on what you have installed, it will take more than 14 hours. Are=
=20
you sure they're talking about emerge -e system and not emerge -e world?
On 8/29/05, Matt Randolph <mattr@erols.com> wrote:
>=20
> I know that upgrading glibc can cause some programs to break if they
> were built against the previous glibc. This happens to me all the time
> and I have gotten in the habit of simply re-emerging any packages that
> misbehave since a glibc upgrade.
>=20
> Well, I have upgraded both glibc and gcc within the last week or so.
> And I've been contemplating a kernel upgrade too. I looked at genlop
> and it said it will take a mere fourteen hours to re-emerge everything
> with an emerge -e world. I'm tempted to do it, but I'm wary of making
> major changes to a system that currently seems to be working perfectly.
>=20
> However, I've only tested a handful of packages (the ones that I use
> every day) since the glibc upgrade, and I did have to rebuild a few of
> them. For this reason, I'm guessing that a significant number of the
> packages that I haven't tested are actually broken too. So when I say
> my system seems to be working perfectly, I think that only applies to
> the packages that I interact with daily and probably not to some of the
> ones that I don't.
>=20
> When does it make sense to re-emerge everything? I've heard some people
> say never but that others do it perhaps monthly or even more often.
>=20
> Is there a (significant) risk that something will go wrong? Even
> terribly wrong?
>=20
> Is it possible that some important programs aren't working right now due
> to having been built against an older glibc, and that I'm simply
> oblivious to the fact that they aren't working? I'm worried
> specifically about system programs that I don't usually have reason to
> interact with, yet may be vitally important to the security and
> stability of my system.
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>=20
>=20
--=20
- Mark Shields
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Depending on what you have installed, it will take more than 14
hours. Are you sure they're talking about emerge -e system and
not emerge -e world?<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;"></span><br><br><div>=
<span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 8/29/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Matt =
Randolph</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:mattr@erols.com">mattr@erols.com</a>>=
wrote:
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I know tha=
t upgrading glibc can cause some programs to break if they<br>were built ag=
ainst the previous glibc. This happens to me all the time
<br>and I have gotten in the habit of simply re-emerging any packages that<=
br>misbehave since a glibc upgrade.<br><br>Well, I have upgraded both glibc=
and gcc within the last week or so.<br>And I've been contemplating a kerne=
l upgrade too. I looked at genlop
<br>and it said it will take a mere fourteen hours to re-emerge everything<=
br>with an emerge -e world. I'm tempted to do it, but I'm wary o=
f making<br>major changes to a system that currently seems to be working pe=
rfectly.
<br><br>However, I've only tested a handful of packages (the ones that I us=
e<br>every day) since the glibc upgrade, and I did have to rebuild a few of=
<br>them. For this reason, I'm guessing that a significant numbe=
r of the
<br>packages that I haven't tested are actually broken too. So w=
hen I say<br>my system seems to be working perfectly, I think that only app=
lies to<br>the packages that I interact with daily and probably not to some=
of the
<br>ones that I don't.<br><br>When does it make sense to re-emerge everythi=
ng? I've heard some people<br>say never but that others do it pe=
rhaps monthly or even more often.<br><br>Is there a (significant) risk that=
something will go wrong? Even
<br>terribly wrong?<br><br>Is it possible that some important programs aren=
't working right now due<br>to having been built against an older glibc, an=
d that I'm simply<br>oblivious to the fact that they aren't working? &=
nbsp;I'm worried
<br>specifically about system programs that I don't usually have reason to<=
br>interact with, yet may be vitally important to the security and<br>stabi=
lity of my system.<br>--<br><a href=3D"mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org">gento=
o-user@gentoo.org
</a> mailing list<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <b=
r>- Mark Shields
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