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From: Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists@yahoo.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:38:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <640566.38775.bm@smtp149.mail.ird.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <484478.99182.bm@smtp111.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

> > the
> > solution (in the GNOME developers view) is not to "remove PA", since
> > the goal of the project is to cover *ALL* use cases.  
> 
> I don't know the details of the pulseaudio implementation but I have a
> hunch the problem boils down to blind arrogance and ignorance on the
> part of the roots of the project.


When trying to hunt down a thread to let a guy on the OpenBSD list
know about Gnome 3.8 hard deps on pulseaudio. I came across this
sarcasm about a comment by Lennart from a fairly prominent dev that
adds to the idea of arrogance and ignorance possibly being a
contributing factor.

________________________________________________________________________

Lennart is a funny, funny man, go check the avahi code to see how nice
it is.

"When working on Avahi I learned a lot about the complexities of safely
and reliably running and maintaining system services, and about
securing them as much as possible, which is particularly important for
network facing services like Avahi. I implemented a lot of
pretty nifty features in 
this area in Avahi. For example, Avahi is still pretty much
the *only daemon* on a standard Linux install that chroot()s
itself by default."
_______________________________________________________________________

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________

'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'

(Doug McIlroy)
_______________________________________________________________________


  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-26 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-18 19:32 [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 19:48 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 20:13     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:43       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:10         ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 21:46           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:02             ` Michael Mol
2013-04-19 20:34               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:57             ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:26   ` [gentoo-user] " Hartmut Figge
2013-04-18 21:29     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-04-18 20:31   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 20:47   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:28   ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:14     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-21 19:46     ` [gentoo-user] Re: [Bulk] " Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-21 21:20       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-22  3:13         ` Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-25 20:15           ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19  7:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2013-04-19  8:49   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19  9:53     ` [gentoo-user] Re[2]: " the guard
2013-04-23 20:59     ` William Hubbs
2013-04-23 22:12       ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24  2:46         ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 10:21           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 20:55           ` William Hubbs
2013-05-13 13:32           ` Alex Schuster
2013-04-25 20:10         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-25 19:34           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 10:46       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-24 21:19         ` Alecks Gates
2013-04-25 15:37           ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20  9:34   ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-20 14:48     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 12:13       ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20 15:41     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-20 19:34       ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-21  1:15       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-21 10:28         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 11:52           ` Mick
2013-04-21 14:24             ` Dale
2013-04-21 16:00               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 18:40                 ` Dale
2013-04-21 21:09                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-22  0:36           ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-04-20 21:05     ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-04-25 15:48     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 17:31       ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-25 20:26         ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  3:10         ` [gentoo-user] " Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 19:17       ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-26  8:34         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 12:05           ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 12:56             ` Yohan Pereira
2013-04-26 13:26               ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 15:41             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 16:29               ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 17:02                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 18:38                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 19:09                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 20:34                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 22:14                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27  0:57                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 20:21                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 20:38                     ` Kevin Chadwick [this message]
2013-04-26 22:28                       ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-27  2:11                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27  6:37                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 18:03               ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 18:25                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 19:51                   ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-27  1:10                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-27 15:55                       ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-27 20:13                         ` Dale
2013-04-28  0:24                           ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28  9:59                             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 16:02                               ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28 17:00                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 16:11                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-28 17:12                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 17:33                                   ` Mick
2013-04-28 17:56                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 21:54           ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-25 19:55       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26  8:50         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 13:59           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 21:37           ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26 22:37           ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-19 13:43 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-19 15:28   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2013-04-19 16:16     ` Karl Lindén
2013-04-19 16:20     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 16:44       ` James
2013-04-19 16:55         ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 20:36   ` [gentoo-user] " Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-04-19 21:06     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-19 21:19       ` Stefan G. Weichinger

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