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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <e6073076-1587-d661-eb9b-b077813e14c2@gmail.com> <2999953.5fSG56mABF@lenovo.localdomain> <5EEE9B0F.3070606@youngman.org.uk> <1827139.PYKUYFuaPT@lenovo.localdomain> <20200622112817.58303718@digimed.co.uk> <20200622105643.GA7037@waltdnes.org> <fdc86bd4-19e3-4eb7-7844-e46621a8aeaf@youngman.org.uk> From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFxc7MgBEAC+zrgEdqJJiDe/UDAB+ScmferXWfJTVjbVT2T4DQ7jiLrgP9aNUo1HioNF mrU3JPOCR32gvZyTbY1+niO5+VSo/+pSqQ785h6ZDj1klMkrg6tEzGnf2MNBpBj4houZwxQ+ WDKKTg2M9F+lv8wTIdR/JQn+hSviktLMtrghQlyLhpapsLXWLA6gMFebpQYwxUwemvan8ddX lQvJe9FGyFYvBi0dp1gl10F2O+DVZJxvX8xkX+yImVlhVJiC31gXHRcj+Qlo7gprlU7TIieF Uow6/ZvYKJ26pztVdFCg5w0rMJkF/x8Zd4A6wnuptiAPmWaQ1+YKgYDonbDUgwqFSx5/lN5z DGZ4LlioxeUTTPVvZsqBIeDz6jNFA583OYbo1/S26dqrvTFf2DKlsvoDpVfAhNlwJPjoixs0 X3FNqPv+M10n4kq5Iz7Q9E3O4s/nfFIYGocEslVka7zZPkXSaHbsn+KJlY8XV6qxtCEdh0/V XX1+1aU2J74M0JikWhpwxTZ1dP5aOyWSPPEgFFIRW6xwwC02SoRH9a7mggfGYp/YjPlONNaT SCL8sgRfvmq3D0XTbLyTjSbExxkfKDmbePQagawDE3TlI/oivHf1JaAcbwMb3LZuU4TGcOIl 5D+x7q0MUIeCop0ZFOwAnqW3AVVNvsBkv2KN+IHJryWAf0/iMQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgWIQTZ7suruPBaS60bCYXvEM/XWu+ZnAUCXFzs yAIbIwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDvEM/XWu+ZnN+7D/4/1dNG4aCz0+v+ 0dcjV5tY1feYEWCdHKyDzxWBxlCpd/0NPRQeNY4VMjbCl/sq7GkXi/c2SbfWDQ5BQRkkExG1 pSwuXSIehGok/4fpTi3HDAguRvzdCqlKPt7me05FyiC/WnpY5GOlJ3ruGw2qABv/RmV2q5b/ tkq7h1y1f16DTNr3/nsj8HzHcrHdXdL4kaYChSOe/dbQR9Stqak7eMyR+iwvrJMNF/CGl70P 2x5ybsXMDzRVOqNcpa5ZdhEMTVh6+vC1SOmm1BFMF8XCqBEvBbcHWDQmGYTdNCsS/ADm8CBl gvjJgLdIsAzoMu4WHQDFnzXAoArqFWgAf53isOS4AWrv29tF9b8Aa1vb7h5JEa+ArcMsA6Gl X38+GY6WXXaxKI9n3PTCWu9tPGnRh7mABjnwEosDDqmzw8aTAYECb3avDuGY2rmcjgh4H6RE w08d63j1T4d5J9wlm4TGtW/VHgbUFkATEdH3Acl/EjFiyqTiX7p8kU6Reu5enIkogA93xoQh Rmy7ZiST/5LN+ZkaOdyjIw0L+5KalslN9SKt809YxgJ6kPo657LNTFPiFvFA46/SEWcBYrzq Xk0wEW0gBRWf+BqN0qRhU0/EQ+QfRdLLFg2xtUePwlheYLXxfyDLrdCCOLWYpkzbjCZHLS4u 69smbvR9S9KBDNzJybxEWrkCDQRcXOzIARAA5IGRWTqaM44IJgBYghZg2fGj0Am7KWPhE7V7 T/EEe7vVSUEFqHtlHzI4ZK6Q0AZ9uAEjE8IJIQ7KoTjzNqAtabP0vp3s0szgtJlsZ+8vGKlQ my7fvzSrdoQL0Xn7CEwJYFXJ1EMUcYIQeoHG1cUAaXx73k9BFbjwjnUeMrqlV/ZovQlg7duW nESfQ7HZu5NrtYyY3jPMUouxiO9WQPh+IHxZbt1absF2VcvRAymD32RxGvMPbw6ChMRD/p9O 4PH7M5rXaxr78NXQX9E48vrI00f1cYb9NSN1HnSV8cW3jKObVjdBk6jPQwrMvdpgdQhUB9aZ HS/9mC9mmAgiXKyCpzXe7FPB6QznSfn4GIaC/luy1e6SLUkJhRK/niB+gq+Mfxg2zXNuDUTI cMGmpDCp3kgUoorkaltk8RW09io95BkXrGhcDNuSGZfAParBc7RXyYpbIcax8St7tEAd2oFh 4seYOPUlzuhGrPpqR/91wrFc4E1260GKauSr4UhMJv6tygBwyC0mmBMKi+ZXw6ZdZxA5fg7y 35P3TILjznCXXTDgRHq9A3NknKRMcgFacX6eIhANkMFo6oJVjuEgy1dvu1wFfDq7c+i8GAHu L4pYzyXYu6PporlNNU0xSwdVgzM/uuK0lt+UxCimgC+YR3IezgDcbfudb7h9dGIwL+bbPL0A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIBYhBNnuy6u48FpLrRsJhe8Qz9da75mcBQJcXOzIAhsMAAoJEO8Qz9da 75mcXZ4P/1YXgWDZek7mhzrf6uaQzMxa92P89HeWz4PlgB/32symeEFAV04WazzBZffI8AYY rGA1Xmu/2VaB9+FOODyKhUWBc2UL0NRWBk6POwboyTdKlclmpixaN9zLcBt0YLejoRfN1B/5 aQf9/lUDZMnAiCyz0FgeqEMUshldmwWC35RqnjrCbbuk2vIqSH6BLDIXU6jQrLHE1DF0ai41 wLtQFAFXPhn45n0ZwYhVs4Z32z4sjXrIvgBgCaXa4HM+L1Klne0KiNM8ReFTTpTE0SgyDOSZ O3MOa2n77i6JbVtsbiFYnNeP3J9S/l3jevGpZEtNQOKrIm1MW8jGuHWtsDeMkT/mCcSodlkt PxIo+mMK9GpGvG2hW80LiohqNfUbNwAmr3blOYY4URPXPRnEnPs4pmTmL5owjw2dkg145i9I D42Tq+XZ6YtWt3SGzGbAYow6XwTwZ5NFAzV9UQuCGrDw4KWan6O6Z+VIYWsn0UMZlu1Obxna aocofkaUCbISK26kImuD1aA8juSHC18Qv1xUage6/UakbSxyDtACqt6hOVFKX3IA59ApdNRT +2x3iCmlvF9MJsGgFq6IpqL+Fk7iWV8Kjbz0wQOId6N9+JdQh3LrLaS7a1PowUm1z9DK5/O0 Yg+gpDnEOOFI7WM5u7a7FSM2Z/LXGVwel/0eWvLk9tN6 Message-ID: <640554a1-fc4f-dc79-da54-fc0e5ce3aefd@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 13:52:22 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <fdc86bd4-19e3-4eb7-7844-e46621a8aeaf@youngman.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6FA8EDA820D12A94545D16B9" X-Archives-Salt: 6b5a99a3-6776-45f2-81ee-e6ae7dc76bf5 X-Archives-Hash: 292ce3c304a9f6ff30739ad4d2571de1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6FA8EDA820D12A94545D16B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit antlists wrote: > On 22/06/2020 11:56, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:28:17AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote >> >>> The SD standard says >33G should use exFAT, this is why many devices >>> state they only support cards up to 32G. The really mean they only >>> support FAT. My Dashcam is like this but it happily works with a 128G >>> card, once I reformatted it with FAT. >> Warning; that still does not change the fact that each individual file >> cannot exceed 4G in size on regular FAT. >> > Warning 2: I did exactly that, and it LOOKED like it was working > happily, until it overflowed some internal limit and my 1G card turned > into a 128M card or whatever it was. Have you actually TESTED that > card IN THE DASHCAM and made sure it can actually use that 128G? Or > will it only be able to use 4G of that card? > > Oh - and 32GB cards are physically different from 128GB cards because > they work to different standards. That's why so many of the old "real > SD" card devices only ever use up to 2GB. You CAN (or could) get 4GB > SD cards, but they were rare, so most people couldn't find them. The > SD standard was replaced by SDHC, which is why your fileformat changes > at 32GB, which is the maximum capacity of an SDHC card. Above 32GB > it's SDXC, which is another reason why sticking a larger card into a > device which says "up to 32GB" is a bad idea - it may not be able to > handle SDXC. > > Cheers, > Wol I recall them being called something different. I'm in no hurry to buy a card just to test tho. I'll have to find a good excuse to buy one. lol Dale :-) :-) --------------6FA8EDA820D12A94545D16B9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">antlists wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:fdc86bd4-19e3-4eb7-7844-e46621a8aeaf@youngman.org.uk">On 22/06/2020 11:56, Walter Dnes wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:28:17AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote <br> <br> <blockquote type="cite">The SD standard says >33G should use exFAT, this is why many devices <br> state they only support cards up to 32G. The really mean they only <br> support FAT. My Dashcam is like this but it happily works with a 128G <br> card, once I reformatted it with FAT. <br> </blockquote> Warning; that still does not change the fact that each individual file <br> cannot exceed 4G in size on regular FAT. <br> <br> </blockquote> Warning 2: I did exactly that, and it LOOKED like it was working happily, until it overflowed some internal limit and my 1G card turned into a 128M card or whatever it was. Have you actually TESTED that card IN THE DASHCAM and made sure it can actually use that 128G? Or will it only be able to use 4G of that card? <br> <br> Oh - and 32GB cards are physically different from 128GB cards because they work to different standards. That's why so many of the old "real SD" card devices only ever use up to 2GB. You CAN (or could) get 4GB SD cards, but they were rare, so most people couldn't find them. The SD standard was replaced by SDHC, which is why your fileformat changes at 32GB, which is the maximum capacity of an SDHC card. Above 32GB it's SDXC, which is another reason why sticking a larger card into a device which says "up to 32GB" is a bad idea - it may not be able to handle SDXC. <br> <br> Cheers, <br> Wol<br> </blockquote> <br> I recall them being called something different. I'm in no hurry to buy a card just to test tho. I'll have to find a good excuse to buy one. lol <br> <br> Dale<br> <br> :-) :-) <br> </body> </html> --------------6FA8EDA820D12A94545D16B9--