From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB811381F3 for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 21:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88C13E0881; Sat, 18 May 2013 21:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail0131.smtp25.com (mail0131.smtp25.com [75.126.84.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E1C6E085A for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 21:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ccs.covici.com (s-out-001.smtp25.com [67.228.91.90]) by d-out-001.smtp25.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r4IL3uY4001836 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 17:03:57 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r4IL3toY006388 for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 17:03:55 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Question (alsaconf R.I.P.) In-reply-to: <201305181655.06804.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <20130517203003.50c030d0d4a013864a616f54@web.de> <51973E48.5070509@gentoo.org> <201305181655.06804.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Comments: In-reply-to Mick message dated "Sat, 18 May 2013 16:54:38 +0100." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 17:03:55 -0400 Message-ID: <6387.1368911035@ccs.covici.com> From: covici@ccs.covici.com X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: d-out-001.smtp25.com-r4IL3uY4001836 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: 6491e3f3-9017-4531-aadf-e5c8f41fcfa1 X-Archives-Hash: 3a19e6cb7404fad5e7fc4ca463700f99 Mick wrote: > On Saturday 18 May 2013 09:39:36 Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 17/05/13 21:30, Silvio Siefke wrote: > > > (generated by alsaconf) > > > > Gentoo's alsa-guide.xml is outdated and is incorrectly suggesting the > > use of alsaconf > > > > When in reality alsaconf doesn't work at all with sys-apps/kmod because > > it doesn't generate 'modules.pcimap' and 'modules.usbmap' files anymore > > > > And in version 1.0.27 of alsa-utils in ~arch the command is no longer > > being installed > > > > So whatever you do, forget about `alsaconf` right from the start, since > > it's no longer required with modern PCI, USB, ... cards because > > sys-fs/udev automatically loads the required drivers > > The `alsaconf` command has been useful only for old PCMCIA and ISA cards > > for years already > > > > Instead you don't do anything else than unmute the mixers using > > alsamixer, and leave the module loading to udev > > > > As in, edit/write /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf by hand only if you need to > > pass some options to the modules > > I am still running media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.26-r2 here and a couple of > months or so ago I tried rebuilding all sound modules in the kernel, only to > confirm that some devices were again no longer available. Building them as > modules restored them back as they were. So for my setting at least I have > stayed with sound built separately as modules. Also, I had to use the install feature of modprobe to get the modules to load correctly as udev did not load all the required modules. Before it was done by an init script. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com