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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
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On 18/12/2016 18:47, lee wrote:
> Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> writes:
>
>> The universe of Linux systems that are running Firefox but not
>> Pulseaudio is fairly small at this point.
>
> Pulseaudio eats away about 10% CPU without any benefit whatsoever, not
> to mention that it makes things more complex and less reliable. Why
> would anyone use it?
>
> Developers might try to make their lifes easier by developing software
> to the point where nobody wants to use it, except for the few developers
> perhaps. With firefox, a policy like that contradicts their claims.
>
>
> This is another issue which comes up quite often with FOSS. Developers
> claim to be doing something in the interest of their users and are
> asking for support. When you take a closer look, you find that they
> don't, and when you offer support, they do not want it.
>
> Why can't they just say that they are making software for themselves the
> way they want it and don't care about what anyone else says or wants?
> It only gives reason to distrust someone when you find that they do not
> do what they claim to be doing.
>
I think you are over-simplifying the situation here. Step back and look
at the problem from the angle of "it's a bunch of people doing stuff"
and not from a tech-centric angle. It's a people problem.
You could make a valid case that the Mozilla devs are outright lying -
they said they want xvy, and your offer to help provide xyz was
rejected. But is it really that simple? I think it's more a case of the
devs would like contributions for xyz and they don't mention the
"everyone knows" "hidden assumption" of environment abc and general
method def. Ahhhh, that's the usual tripping point.
I don't know the specifics of your particular case, but my first
approximation guess is that there's an abc and def in there which the
devs didn't think to mention. Happens all the time, usually with
stunningly obvious stuff that "everyone" thought "everyone else" knew
about. Things like future roadmaps, planned features, and the individual
personal preferences of each dev.
I guess I'll saying don't be too quick to shoot from the hip - more
looking less assuming is often the better path.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com