From: Grant Taylor <gtaylor@gentoo.tnetconsulting.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 20:14:54 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <62be36a4-680a-ac2c-1f39-4b10d93d5770@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4baf69f-71f0-d1f0-a3bf-e506b73019f7@youngman.org.uk>
On 4/11/20 4:13 PM, antlists wrote:
> Which was also a pain in the neck because it was single-threaded - if
> the ISP tried to send an incoming email at the same time the gateway
> tried to send, the gateway hung.
Ew. I can't say as I'm surprised about that, given the nature of SMTP
servers in the '90s.
I wonder what the licensing would have been to have one machine sending
outbound and another receiving inbound. Though that does assume that
you could have multiple SMTP gateways connected to MS-Mail.
> You could pretty much guarantee most mornings I'd be in the server
> room deleting a bunch of private emails from the outgoing queue,
> and repeatedly rebooting until the queues in both directions managed
> to clear.
Oy vey!
> The point is that when the server sends EHLO, it is *not* a *permitted*
> response for the client to drop the connection.
>
> That was the specification for ESMTP - the client should reject EHLO,
> the server tries again with HELO, and things (supposedly) proceed as
> they should. Which they can't, if the client improperly kills the
> connection.
Agreed.
> Which shouldn't have been a problem. ESMTP was designed to fall back
> gracefully to SMTP. But if clients don't behave correctly as per the
> SMTP spec, how can the server degrade gracefully?
I wonder how many Sun Sparc boxen were put between Microsoft mail
infrastructure and the rest of the world in the '90s and '00s.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-06 12:35 [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server Ashley Dixon
2020-04-06 12:41 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 13:08 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-06 13:15 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 13:24 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-06 16:18 ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2020-04-06 16:25 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-06 19:03 ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-06 19:16 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 20:06 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-08 21:36 ` Neil Bothwick
2020-04-08 21:49 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-08 22:06 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-08 22:13 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-08 22:22 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-09 1:15 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-06 20:02 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-06 23:34 ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-11 20:08 ` [gentoo-user] " antlists
2020-04-11 20:17 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-11 20:41 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-11 20:45 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-11 20:50 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-11 20:33 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-11 22:13 ` antlists
2020-04-12 2:14 ` Grant Taylor [this message]
2020-04-06 15:24 ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-06 15:34 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-06 15:51 ` Robert Bridge
2020-04-06 16:02 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 16:19 ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-06 16:43 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 17:02 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-06 17:14 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 17:19 ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-06 17:24 ` Robert Bridge
2020-04-06 17:27 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 17:25 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 17:32 ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-06 17:35 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 18:13 ` Stefan Schmiedl
2020-04-07 17:10 ` Michael
2020-04-07 18:34 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-07 18:54 ` Stefan Schmiedl
2020-04-07 19:11 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-07 18:35 ` Stefan Schmiedl
2020-04-07 4:37 ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-06 17:44 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-06 17:55 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 19:59 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-06 20:55 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-06 17:00 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-06 17:34 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-06 21:17 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-06 22:12 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-07 4:49 ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-07 10:53 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-08 3:18 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-08 13:39 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2020-04-08 14:11 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-08 16:03 ` Grant Taylor
2020-04-08 16:34 ` Grant Edwards
2020-04-08 14:50 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2020-04-11 19:57 ` antlists
2020-04-08 3:14 ` Grant Taylor
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