[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?

[Alexander Skwar <listen@alexander.skwar.name>]

· Darren Kirby <bulliver@badcomputer.org>:

> Quoth the Willie Wong
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 11:30:40AM -0700, Darren Kirby wrote:
>> > > > Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be
>> > > > different (ie: newer) version offered. Good enough?
>> > >
>> > > No, not good enough, as that doesn't matter at all. All that matters
>> > > is, what's in the tree. And the latest stable version is 0.8, no matter
>> > > what you think. The question remains: Why should a different version be
>> > > offered?
>> >
>> > Sorry Alexander, I just don't get where you're going with this. Version
>> > 0.8 was released September 27, 2004! There have been 4 major new releases
>> > since then, which include many bug fixes, and new and improved features.
>> > 0.8 is old and busted, 0.9.3 is the new hotness!
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> Just to prevent the heat from escalating, may I offer my observation
>> that the two of you seems to be arguing about completely different
>> things?
> 
> Heat? I'm not mad, just confused ;)
> 
>> Alexander (and I, likewise) probably misunderstood Darren's question
>> from the start: when he posted, I thought his expectation that "emerge
>> dir2ogg" should bring in a newer version than what was offered was a
>> lack of understanding of how the portage tree works (well, some of my
>> friends do actually think that the package management system [aptget,
>> rpm, portage, etc.] would actually be smart enough to automatically
>> go on the internet and find and install the latest version of a
>> program, so I wouldn't put any misconception past human capacity).
> 
> Please note Willie, I am not the original poster. I jumped in here because I 
> wrote the script that the OP is asking about, and I agree the current stable 
> version is long outdated.
> 
> That said, I _do_ realize that the OP was asking a flawed question. I was 
> simply responding to Alexander: "Why do you think, that a different version 
> should be offered, when you "emerge dir2ogg"?".

But with a wrong answer :) In the tree, the latest stable is 0.8, check
out: <http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=dir2ogg>. There *IS*
no 0.9.3. Granted, there *should* be a 0.9.3 version, but there just
isn't. And stable is 0.8, not even 0.9.2.

As I wrote: Why does he think, that a different version than 0.8 should
be offered, when he runs "emerge dir2ogg"?

> If he means "why should portage automatically go grab the newest upstream 
> version", then I agree with his implication: it shouldn't.

That's what I wrote, yes.

> That's not what he  
> wrote though.

It is.

> The wording of his comment reads like he is asking why portage  
> should offer a more current version of the software,

That's what I asked maxim. Why does he think, that a different version,
than the latest stable in-tree-version (ie. 0.8) should be offered
when he runs "emerge dir2ogg"?

Alexander Skwar
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