From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L4XwG-000450-Mr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:41:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FA9FE0132; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027E5E03DD for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v33so978792wah.2 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:41:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xsS0hjYMQKcTUIKpilHrwpLSU2yEm/STitG/1kI8G1k=; b=So+yRMSc6pLoOuqCaIBoU90JUNea3JGX1wlHpzoYk60Xrp12kwOnzJlndwNjjoZoHQ vnbE320YwPYXSZGnCywFkJdqKtMje0+KLmWl8HgjiiL8I8GPVKXqZ7PNp9mOUhmf36sM Hi10JiuF70AKAAuSkMFsAQVaaUvZPNGgt2CSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cHQ/vO/A3X9k2FDxKcVmdQLbB2nQaphvWLu61vgmg2fUTw4uphSR6MgvAkuVaA5+CQ O66UBuShEtcNEX3+Oz830jkVqjSgKRLipoi3TAZzAar4QwjNTr16YHsP7vUn2QB0sMYi mDP6JQQo939v3v3w82MEPPR0pbjMsePPGxRjA= Received: by 10.114.92.2 with SMTP id p2mr1825448wab.122.1227519662786; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.5 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:41:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6142e6140811240141ua9ff438w42107836e92397b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:41:02 +0100 From: "Daniel Pielmeier" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Masking for Educational Purposes only ? In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Archives-Salt: cf02b730-778f-496b-9311-8eb4c7d66fd1 X-Archives-Hash: 0f6466e4c4589b07884fea410de085e1 2008/11/24 Helmut Jarausch : > Hi, > > portage-2.2.. has been masked. > /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask tells me why > > "In order to ensure that portage-2.1.6 gets sufficient testing, > portage-2.2 will be masked in package.mask until portage-2.1.6 has > been marked stable." > > I feel like someone will try to educate me. > Yes, I can and will unmask it again, but why > am I forced to? > > I'd prefer if package.mask is used for buggy or dangerous > packages only. I will try to explain this a bit from what I know from mailing-lists and IRC. First there are no problems with portage-2.2. It has been masked because some features are not ready and thus are blocking stabilisation. As a conclusion portage-2.1.6 has been branched out without this features to get a stable version into the tree which has support for eapi 2 and all other features that are ready. To get more testing to 2.1.6 version it has been decided to mask 2.2 with the hope more people are using 2.1.6 to get remaining bugs fixed and to get it stable quickly. Of course some users which are for instance using kde-4 or other stuff which will need features that are only in 2.2 will have to unmask portage 2.2 to get the system running. This is one thing that annoys me a bit of gentoo. There is way to much information that is not passed to the users, a short announcement which explains the situation on the homepage, forum or even the gentoo-user mailing list and everything would be fine. Some things important for users are often discussed only on IRC or the gentoo-dev mailing list so they do not reach most of the users. Examples are this portage masking and the perl package moves to name a few things that happened recently. -- Regards, Daniel