From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4181381F3 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81617E0E97; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA29E0B1B for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.137] (helo=smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VEOsG-0003GI-S5 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:24:20 +0200 Received: from 54698b76.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.105.139.118] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VEOsG-0002Sa-9k for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:24:20 +0200 Received: from [192.168.45.100] (54698B76.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl [84.105.139.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C38814C for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:23:47 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <521C90B2.3020805@gmail.com> References: <520A5446.1050001@mail.ru> <520DA782.4050803@sporkbox.us> <520F6333.70301@dmj.nu> <9716EEEB-144F-47AA-A828-FC9A508CE9FA@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <521090F5.4090305@gmail.com> <521122CB.4010003@libertytrek.org> <521A7EE9.8000706@gmail.com> <521AF45C.1010206@gmail.com> <521C8F22.9060200@libertytrek.org> <521C90B2.3020805@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----IAQBV0J2L7DQNG9DWIZ8QN1QQMMD05" Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo From: joost@antarean.org Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:24:03 +0200 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <6056352e-a064-4add-bda9-153988a59b8e@email.android.com> X-Ziggo-spambar: ---- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -4.8 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1,BAYES_00=-1.9,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.1,PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: 8cde3eb3-ead4-4ee1-b626-1b355c367fd5 X-Archives-Hash: 09b877e686822d67e99fda63e8a229ff ------IAQBV0J2L7DQNG9DWIZ8QN1QQMMD05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was what it >lets >>> me as the admin do: >>> >>> I get all the benefits of directories with none of the downsides. >>> I get all the benefits of mount points with none of the downsides. >>> I get all the benefits of discrete filesystems with none of the >>> downsides. >>> >>> Like you say, a truly modern fs built for modern needs. >>=20 >> Are these home-built NAS's running FreeBSD (or maybe FreeNAS)? Or >> TrueNAS or Nexenta boxes? >>=20 >> I'm wondering what the best way would be to get something set up for >ZFS >> file storage. I have some older servers that I can use, so was >leaning >> toward FreeNAS... >>=20 > >Mine are HP mini-servers (the cube shaped ones) with 4 SATA bays >running >FreeNAS 8.0.something. > >Dunno if you've worked with FreeNAS before, but it's literally a case >of >write the image to USB or flash storage and boot off it. Then play. > >You will need to be able to boot off a USB stick, CF card or similar, >FreeNAS uses an entire drive for it's system partition and it's a shame >to waste a whole high-capacity disk just for a 2G system image > > > >--=20 >Alan McKinnon >alan.mckinnon@gmail.com Alan. How is the security settings on the shares now? I had issues when accessing through NFS and CIFS simultaneously where fil= es written over NFS had to have the permissions altered before they were = accessible over CIFS. Other issue I had was inability to have users only being able to access f= iles they were allowed to. With CIFS it sort of worked. But with NFS I ha= d full access to all files. That is the reason why I setup my NAS manually using Gentoo. -- Joost --=20 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ------IAQBV0J2L7DQNG9DWIZ8QN1QQMMD05 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alan McKinnon <ala= n.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKi=
nnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really =
sold me was what it lets
me as the admin do:

I get all th=
e benefits of directories with none of the downsides.
I get all the =
benefits of mount points with none of the downsides.
I get all the b=
enefits of discrete filesystems with none of the
downsides.
Like you say, a truly modern fs built for modern needs.
Are these home-built NAS's running FreeBSD (or maybe FreeNAS)? Or
TrueNAS or Nexenta boxes?

I'm wondering what the best way wo=
uld be to get something set up for ZFS
file storage.
I have some older servers that I can use, so was leaning
toward Free=
NAS...


Mine are HP mini-servers (the cube shaped = ones) with 4 SATA bays running
FreeNAS 8.0.something.

Dun= no if you've worked with FreeNAS before, but it's literally a case of
write the image to USB or flash storage and boot off it. Then play.

You will need to be able to boot off a USB stick, CF card or simi= lar,
FreeNAS uses an entire drive for it's system partition and it's= a shame
to waste a whole high-capacity disk just for a 2G system im= age



Alan.

How is the security settings on the shares now?

I had issues when accessing through NFS and CIFS simultaneously where fil= es written over NFS had to have the permissions altered before they were = accessible over CIFS.

Other issue I had was inability to have users only being able to access f= iles they were allowed to. With CIFS it sort of worked. But with NFS I ha= d full access to all files.

That is the reason why I setup my NAS manually using Gentoo.

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Joost
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