[gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Howdy,

I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running for
doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it easier
for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new version
is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want to open
a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin from
desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose where I am
when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous instance. 

Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:

kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
-semantic-desktop -test"

Previous version that worked normally:

kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3

Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure section to
see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything related.  I
checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as well.  I
even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there either. 
Is this a new thing, a bug or what? 

Thanks for the help.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Philip Webb]

190816 Dale wrote:
> I upgraded my system last night,
> logged out and back in earlier and have noticed something new.
> It seems to only allow one instance of Dolphin to run at a time.
> I usually have three or four running
> for doing different things in different locations.
> It just makes it easier for me to multi-task at times.
> Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
> kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
> -semantic-desktop -test"
> Previous version that worked normally:
> kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3

https://kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-19.08.0

Apparently, it's a new feature.
Can you solve your problem with KDE Activities ?
Otherwise, perhaps tabs will help.

I use CLI for ordinary file management & Krusader for heavy lifting,
so this doesn't affect me.

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Philip Webb wrote:
> 190816 Dale wrote:
>> I upgraded my system last night,
>> logged out and back in earlier and have noticed something new.
>> It seems to only allow one instance of Dolphin to run at a time.
>> I usually have three or four running
>> for doing different things in different locations.
>> It just makes it easier for me to multi-task at times.
>> Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>> kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
>> -semantic-desktop -test"
>> Previous version that worked normally:
>> kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
> https://kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-19.08.0
>
> Apparently, it's a new feature.
> Can you solve your problem with KDE Activities ?
> Otherwise, perhaps tabs will help.
>
> I use CLI for ordinary file management & Krusader for heavy lifting,
> so this doesn't affect me.
>
> HTH
>


That's interesting.  It says this in the link provided.  "Note that this
behavior is now on by default, but it can be disabled."  I've looked and
I can not find where to disable that feature.  It says it can be
disabled but I wonder where that setting is??

Can you narrow down CLI for me?  I did a eix cli and it gives a lot of
hits.  I don't think I've tried that one.  It doesn't ring a bell at
least. 

Thanks for the info.  At least I know now if I can't find a way to
disable it, on to a different file manager.  I already switched to
Krusader for root access so it's not like I'm not totally against using
something else. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Philip Webb]

190817 Dale wrote:
> It says this in the link provided : "Note that this behavior is now
> on by default, but it can be disabled."
> I've looked and I can not find where to disable that feature.

Sorry, I can't help there : keep looking (smile).

> Can you narrow down CLI for me?

'Command-line interface' : a good old terminal ...

I supplement that with some  .bashrc  aliases + functions.
I also use 'cdargs' -- yes, you can 'eix' that one -- ,
which makes it easier to jump around the file system.

> I already switched to Krusader for root access
> so it's not like I'm not totally against using something else. 

Krusader is a bit powerful for ordinary little move/copy/read's,
but there's no reason you couldn't use it like that, if you need to.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Daniel Frey]

On 8/17/19 4:48 PM, Dale wrote:
> Philip Webb wrote:
>> 190816 Dale wrote:
>>> I upgraded my system last night,
>>> logged out and back in earlier and have noticed something new.
>>> It seems to only allow one instance of Dolphin to run at a time.
>>> I usually have three or four running
>>> for doing different things in different locations.
>>> It just makes it easier for me to multi-task at times.
>>> Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>>> kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
>>> -semantic-desktop -test"
>>> Previous version that worked normally:
>>> kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>> https://kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-19.08.0
>>
>> Apparently, it's a new feature.
>> Can you solve your problem with KDE Activities ?
>> Otherwise, perhaps tabs will help.
>>
>> I use CLI for ordinary file management & Krusader for heavy lifting,
>> so this doesn't affect me.
>>
>> HTH
>>
> 
> 
> That's interesting.  It says this in the link provided.  "Note that this
> behavior is now on by default, but it can be disabled."  I've looked and
> I can not find where to disable that feature.  It says it can be
> disabled but I wonder where that setting is??
> 
> Can you narrow down CLI for me?  I did a eix cli and it gives a lot of
> hits.  I don't think I've tried that one.  It doesn't ring a bell at
> least.
> 
> Thanks for the info.  At least I know now if I can't find a way to
> disable it, on to a different file manager.  I already switched to
> Krusader for root access so it's not like I'm not totally against using
> something else.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 

I always make sure I have Midnight Commander (app-misc/mc) on my 
machines in case a GUI is not available. If you're copying only a few 
things the shell is fine, but mc is pretty handy for organizing files.

I'm in the middle of a stable upgrade now, if I find some sort of option 
for Dolphin I'll let you know.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Philip Webb wrote:
> 190817 Dale wrote:
>> It says this in the link provided : "Note that this behavior is now
>> on by default, but it can be disabled."
>> I've looked and I can not find where to disable that feature.
> Sorry, I can't help there : keep looking (smile).
>
>> Can you narrow down CLI for me?
> 'Command-line interface' : a good old terminal ...
>
> I supplement that with some  .bashrc  aliases + functions.
> I also use 'cdargs' -- yes, you can 'eix' that one -- ,
> which makes it easier to jump around the file system.

Ah, OK.  I thought it was some nifty file manager that I hadn't heard
of.  Explains why I couldn't find it, in the long list of cli hits.  A
LOT of packages have the name "client" in it.  Searching for cli with
those names makes it a long list.  ;-) 


>> I already switched to Krusader for root access
>> so it's not like I'm not totally against using something else. 
> Krusader is a bit powerful for ordinary little move/copy/read's,
> but there's no reason you couldn't use it like that, if you need to.
>


I use it mostly when I'm doing upgrades.  I edit keywords, USE flags and
such with it.  I don't use it often but it runs as root without me
having to keep up with patches and all that stuff.  If the upstream devs
want to disable features that are needed, I use something else. 

I'm still looking for a way to disable that thing, it has to be called
something I don't recognize or something.  I just don't see it.  I have
looked in places that it shouldn't even be to be honest.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 8/17/19 4:48 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Philip Webb wrote:
>>> 190816 Dale wrote:
>>>> I upgraded my system last night,
>>>> logged out and back in earlier and have noticed something new.
>>>> It seems to only allow one instance of Dolphin to run at a time.
>>>> I usually have three or four running
>>>> for doing different things in different locations.
>>>> It just makes it easier for me to multi-task at times.
>>>> Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>>>> kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
>>>> -semantic-desktop -test"
>>>> Previous version that worked normally:
>>>> kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>>> https://kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-19.08.0
>>>
>>> Apparently, it's a new feature.
>>> Can you solve your problem with KDE Activities ?
>>> Otherwise, perhaps tabs will help.
>>>
>>> I use CLI for ordinary file management & Krusader for heavy lifting,
>>> so this doesn't affect me.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>
>>
>> That's interesting.  It says this in the link provided.  "Note that this
>> behavior is now on by default, but it can be disabled."  I've looked and
>> I can not find where to disable that feature.  It says it can be
>> disabled but I wonder where that setting is??
>>
>> Can you narrow down CLI for me?  I did a eix cli and it gives a lot of
>> hits.  I don't think I've tried that one.  It doesn't ring a bell at
>> least.
>>
>> Thanks for the info.  At least I know now if I can't find a way to
>> disable it, on to a different file manager.  I already switched to
>> Krusader for root access so it's not like I'm not totally against using
>> something else.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>
> I always make sure I have Midnight Commander (app-misc/mc) on my
> machines in case a GUI is not available. If you're copying only a few
> things the shell is fine, but mc is pretty handy for organizing files.
>
> I'm in the middle of a stable upgrade now, if I find some sort of
> option for Dolphin I'll let you know.
>
> Dan
>
>


I have mc installed here as well.  I have used it a few times.  Thing
is, I use other file managers because I work with images and videos a
lot plus text or document files as well.  Having thumbnails and being
able to make them larger and all comes in handy.  It seems for that sort
of task, mc lacks a few features that graphical file mangers have.  If
stuck in command line, it is handy.  May be handy in other situations as
well.  Just not in my current one. 

I may end up using PCMan.  I used it for a while and it does well in
certain situations but Dolphin had its pluses when dealing with videos
and images.  Until now at least. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 17/08/2019 05:56, Dale wrote:
> I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
> have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
> Dolphin to run at a time.

When you press Meta+E ("meta" being the key with the Windows logo on 
most keyboard), you can start a new Dolphin instance. Dolphin doesn't 
have to be already open for this to work. It's a global Plasma shortcut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 17/08/2019 05:56, Dale wrote:
>> I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
>> have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
>> Dolphin to run at a time.
>
> When you press Meta+E ("meta" being the key with the Windows logo on
> most keyboard), you can start a new Dolphin instance. Dolphin doesn't
> have to be already open for this to work. It's a global Plasma shortcut.
>
>
>


That works.  It gives me a new instance of it at least.  I've looked
everywhere in the configure section and I've even found and looked at
the Dolphin handbook online and can't find a way to disable this. 
Usually I click on the folder on my desktop to go where I want.  I have
either the directory itself or links to those I go to frequently.  Have
you seen a way to make it work the old way?  Doing the keyboard shortcut
is a workaround for the moment tho.  Thanks much for that.  I'd still
prefer to have it the old way tho.

Thanks so much again.  At least I have a workaround for the time being.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Mick]

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On Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:57:14 BST Dale wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 17/08/2019 05:56, Dale wrote:
> >> I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
> >> have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
> >> Dolphin to run at a time.
> > 
> > When you press Meta+E ("meta" being the key with the Windows logo on
> > most keyboard), you can start a new Dolphin instance. Dolphin doesn't
> > have to be already open for this to work. It's a global Plasma shortcut.
> 
> That works.  It gives me a new instance of it at least.  I've looked
> everywhere in the configure section and I've even found and looked at
> the Dolphin handbook online and can't find a way to disable this. 
> Usually I click on the folder on my desktop to go where I want.  I have
> either the directory itself or links to those I go to frequently.  Have
> you seen a way to make it work the old way?  Doing the keyboard shortcut
> is a workaround for the moment tho.  Thanks much for that.  I'd still
> prefer to have it the old way tho.
> 
> Thanks so much again.  At least I have a workaround for the time being.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

I must be pressing the keyboard buttons the wrong way, it does not work here 
on plasma-5.15.5 & dolphin-19.04.3  :-/

-- 
Regards,

Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

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Mick wrote:
> On Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:57:14 BST Dale wrote:
>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> On 17/08/2019 05:56, Dale wrote:
>>>> I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
>>>> have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
>>>> Dolphin to run at a time.
>>> When you press Meta+E ("meta" being the key with the Windows logo on
>>> most keyboard), you can start a new Dolphin instance. Dolphin doesn't
>>> have to be already open for this to work. It's a global Plasma shortcut.
>> That works.  It gives me a new instance of it at least.  I've looked
>> everywhere in the configure section and I've even found and looked at
>> the Dolphin handbook online and can't find a way to disable this. 
>> Usually I click on the folder on my desktop to go where I want.  I have
>> either the directory itself or links to those I go to frequently.  Have
>> you seen a way to make it work the old way?  Doing the keyboard shortcut
>> is a workaround for the moment tho.  Thanks much for that.  I'd still
>> prefer to have it the old way tho.
>>
>> Thanks so much again.  At least I have a workaround for the time being.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> I must be pressing the keyboard buttons the wrong way, it does not work here 
> on plasma-5.15.5 & dolphin-19.04.3  :-/
>


Yours are older so that may not be added yet. 


root@fireball / # equery list -p plasma
 * Searching for plasma ...
[IP-] [  ] kde-frameworks/plasma-5.60.0:5/5.60
[-P-] [  ] kde-frameworks/plasma-5.61.0:5/5.61
root@fireball / # equery list -p kde-apps/dolphin
 * Searching for dolphin in kde-apps ...
[-P-] [  ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3:5
[IP-] [  ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5
root@fireball / #


When you get to the latest Dolphin, maybe then it will work. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[P Levine]

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On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
> have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
> Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running for
> doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it easier
> for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new version
> is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want to open
> a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin from
> desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose where I am
> when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous instance.
>
> Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>
> kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
> -semantic-desktop -test"
>
> Previous version that worked normally:
>
> kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>
> Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure section to
> see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything related.  I
> checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as well.  I
> even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there either.
> Is this a new thing, a bug or what?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>

The behaviour was changed such that dolphin opens new instances in tabs by
default.  If you want to change that, edit the desktop file and add the
*--new-window* option to the command.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

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P Levine wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Howdy,
>
>     I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
>     have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
>     Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running for
>     doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it
>     easier
>     for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new version
>     is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want
>     to open
>     a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin from
>     desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose
>     where I am
>     when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous
>     instance. 
>
>     Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>
>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
>     -semantic-desktop -test"
>
>     Previous version that worked normally:
>
>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>
>     Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure section to
>     see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything related.  I
>     checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as well.  I
>     even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there
>     either. 
>     Is this a new thing, a bug or what? 
>
>     Thanks for the help.
>
>     Dale
>
>     :-)  :-) 
>
>
> The behaviour was changed such that dolphin opens new instances in
> tabs by default.  If you want to change that, edit the desktop file
> and add the *--new-window* option to the command.
>


Added that and it still opens in another instance and adds a tab.  After
my edit, it looks like this:

Exec=dolphin %u --new-window

The file I edited is located here including the file name:

/usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop

Did I add it to the wrong place or does it require more than that? 
There are several .desktop files as listed here:


root@fireball / # equery f kde-apps/dolphin | grep desktop
/usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.FileManager1.xml
/usr/share/kglobalaccel/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
/usr/share/kservices5/dolphinpart.desktop
/usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphingeneral.desktop
/usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinnavigation.desktop
/usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinservices.desktop
/usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinviewmodes.desktop
/usr/share/kservicetypes5/fileviewversioncontrolplugin.desktop
root@fireball / #



Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Dave Fellows wrote:
>> P Levine wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Howdy,
>>>
>>>     I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
>>>     have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
>>>     Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running for
>>>     doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it
>>>     easier
>>>     for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new version
>>>     is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want
>>>     to open
>>>     a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin from
>>>     desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose
>>>     where I am
>>>     when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous
>>>     instance. 
>>>
>>>     Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>>>
>>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
>>>     -semantic-desktop -test"
>>>
>>>     Previous version that worked normally:
>>>
>>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>>>
>>>     Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure section to
>>>     see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything related.  I
>>>     checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as well.  I
>>>     even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there
>>>     either. 
>>>     Is this a new thing, a bug or what? 
>>>
>>>     Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>>     Dale
>>>
>>>     :-)  :-) 
>>>
>>>
>>> The behaviour was changed such that dolphin opens new instances in
>>> tabs by default.  If you want to change that, edit the desktop file
>>> and add the *--new-window* option to the command.
>>>
>>
>> Added that and it still opens in another instance and adds a tab.  After
>> my edit, it looks like this:
>>
>> Exec=dolphin %u --new-window
>>
>> The file I edited is located here including the file name:
>>
>> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>>
>> Did I add it to the wrong place or does it require more than that? 
>> There are several .desktop files as listed here:
>>
>>
>> root@fireball / # equery f kde-apps/dolphin | grep desktop
>> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>> /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.FileManager1.xml
>> /usr/share/kglobalaccel/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>> /usr/share/kservices5/dolphinpart.desktop
>> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphingeneral.desktop
>> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinnavigation.desktop
>> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinservices.desktop
>> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinviewmodes.desktop
>> /usr/share/kservicetypes5/fileviewversioncontrolplugin.desktop
>> root@fireball / #
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>>
> Try
> Exec=dolphin --new-window  %u
>
> DaveF
>


Same results.  It opens a new tab in a already running instance.  For
something that can be disabled, it would seem they would document how to
do so or at least link to it.  I've read the online documentation for
Dolphin and can't find any mention of this or how to disable it.  Either
it isn't there or I missed it somehow, well hidden maybe.  ;-) 

Open for ideas tho. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[P Levine]

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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 9:16 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave Fellows wrote:
> >> P Levine wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Howdy,
> >>>
> >>>     I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier
> and
> >>>     have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
> >>>     Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running for
> >>>     doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it
> >>>     easier
> >>>     for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new
> version
> >>>     is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want
> >>>     to open
> >>>     a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin
> from
> >>>     desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose
> >>>     where I am
> >>>     when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous
> >>>     instance.
> >>>
> >>>     Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
> >>>
> >>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities
> -debug
> >>>     -semantic-desktop -test"
> >>>
> >>>     Previous version that worked normally:
> >>>
> >>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
> >>>
> >>>     Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure
> section to
> >>>     see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything related.
> I
> >>>     checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as
> well.  I
> >>>     even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there
> >>>     either.
> >>>     Is this a new thing, a bug or what?
> >>>
> >>>     Thanks for the help.
> >>>
> >>>     Dale
> >>>
> >>>     :-)  :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The behaviour was changed such that dolphin opens new instances in
> >>> tabs by default.  If you want to change that, edit the desktop file
> >>> and add the *--new-window* option to the command.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Added that and it still opens in another instance and adds a tab.  After
> >> my edit, it looks like this:
> >>
> >> Exec=dolphin %u --new-window
> >>
> >> The file I edited is located here including the file name:
> >>
> >> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
> >>
> >> Did I add it to the wrong place or does it require more than that?
> >> There are several .desktop files as listed here:
> >>
> >>
> >> root@fireball / # equery f kde-apps/dolphin | grep desktop
> >> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
> >> /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.FileManager1.xml
> >> /usr/share/kglobalaccel/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
> >> /usr/share/kservices5/dolphinpart.desktop
> >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphingeneral.desktop
> >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinnavigation.desktop
> >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinservices.desktop
> >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinviewmodes.desktop
> >> /usr/share/kservicetypes5/fileviewversioncontrolplugin.desktop
> >> root@fireball / #
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Dale
> >>
> >> :-)  :-)
> >>
> > Try
> > Exec=dolphin --new-window  %u
> >
> > DaveF
> >
>
>
> Same results.  It opens a new tab in a already running instance.  For
> something that can be disabled, it would seem they would document how to
> do so or at least link to it.  I've read the online documentation for
> Dolphin and can't find any mention of this or how to disable it.  Either
> it isn't there or I missed it somehow, well hidden maybe.  ;-)
>
> Open for ideas tho.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>

Maybe related to this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/bze2wm/dolphin_opening_tabs_instead_of_windows_from_task/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

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P Levine wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 9:16 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dave Fellows wrote:
>     >> P Levine wrote:
>     >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
>     <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>
>     >>> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>>>
>     wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>     Howdy,
>     >>>
>     >>>     I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in
>     earlier and
>     >>>     have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one
>     instance of
>     >>>     Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four
>     running for
>     >>>     doing different things in different locations.  It just
>     makes it
>     >>>     easier
>     >>>     for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the
>     new version
>     >>>     is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and
>     then want
>     >>>     to open
>     >>>     a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running
>     dolphin from
>     >>>     desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose
>     >>>     where I am
>     >>>     when I get ready to go back to work on something in the
>     previous
>     >>>     instance. 
>     >>>
>     >>>     Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>     >>>
>     >>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook
>     -activities -debug
>     >>>     -semantic-desktop -test"
>     >>>
>     >>>     Previous version that worked normally:
>     >>>
>     >>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>     >>>
>     >>>     Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the
>     Configure section to
>     >>>     see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything
>     related.  I
>     >>>     checked to see if I could add a option on the command line
>     as well.  I
>     >>>     even poked around System Settings but can't find anything
>     there
>     >>>     either. 
>     >>>     Is this a new thing, a bug or what? 
>     >>>
>     >>>     Thanks for the help.
>     >>>
>     >>>     Dale
>     >>>
>     >>>     :-)  :-) 
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> The behaviour was changed such that dolphin opens new instances in
>     >>> tabs by default.  If you want to change that, edit the desktop
>     file
>     >>> and add the *--new-window* option to the command.
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >> Added that and it still opens in another instance and adds a
>     tab.  After
>     >> my edit, it looks like this:
>     >>
>     >> Exec=dolphin %u --new-window
>     >>
>     >> The file I edited is located here including the file name:
>     >>
>     >> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>     >>
>     >> Did I add it to the wrong place or does it require more than that? 
>     >> There are several .desktop files as listed here:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> root@fireball / # equery f kde-apps/dolphin | grep desktop
>     >> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>     >> /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.FileManager1.xml
>     >> /usr/share/kglobalaccel/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>     >> /usr/share/kservices5/dolphinpart.desktop
>     >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphingeneral.desktop
>     >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinnavigation.desktop
>     >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinservices.desktop
>     >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinviewmodes.desktop
>     >> /usr/share/kservicetypes5/fileviewversioncontrolplugin.desktop
>     >> root@fireball / #
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Thanks.
>     >>
>     >> Dale
>     >>
>     >> :-)  :-) 
>     >>
>     > Try
>     > Exec=dolphin --new-window  %u
>     >
>     > DaveF
>     >
>
>
>     Same results.  It opens a new tab in a already running instance.  For
>     something that can be disabled, it would seem they would document
>     how to
>     do so or at least link to it.  I've read the online documentation for
>     Dolphin and can't find any mention of this or how to disable it. 
>     Either
>     it isn't there or I missed it somehow, well hidden maybe.  ;-) 
>
>     Open for ideas tho. 
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Dale
>
>     :-)  :-) 
>
>
> Maybe related to
> this: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/bze2wm/dolphin_opening_tabs_instead_of_windows_from_task/


It sounds like it.  It seems it is hardcoded to do this at the moment. 
This seriously makes me want to start using another file manager.  I
don't mind someone testing new features but at the very least, have it
where it can be disabled for those who do not want it or are set up not
to need it.  This makes me have to do more to get to where I want. 
Instead of clicking my Video folder for example, I have to do a Meta + e
and then navigate to that folder.  Before this, I simply clicked the
Video folder on my desktop and I was there.  It's the same for other
folders as well.  This reminds me of the switch from KDE3 to KDE4 and
the mess that created.  I'm beginning to wonder about KDE.  

For those who prefer this behavior, I'm sure it is a good thing.  I
suspect tho that there are a lot who don't like this sprung on them.  If
I'd known about this, I wouldn't have allowed the upgrade until the fix
was released. 

Thanks for finding that.  At least there may be a fix coming.  If not,
I'll find other options. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[P Levine]

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On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> P Levine wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 9:16 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave Fellows wrote:
>> >> P Levine wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
>> >>> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>     Howdy,
>> >>>
>> >>>     I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in
>> earlier and
>> >>>     have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance
>> of
>> >>>     Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running
>> for
>> >>>     doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it
>> >>>     easier
>> >>>     for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new
>> version
>> >>>     is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want
>> >>>     to open
>> >>>     a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin
>> from
>> >>>     desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose
>> >>>     where I am
>> >>>     when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous
>> >>>     instance.
>> >>>
>> >>>     Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>> >>>
>> >>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities
>> -debug
>> >>>     -semantic-desktop -test"
>> >>>
>> >>>     Previous version that worked normally:
>> >>>
>> >>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>> >>>
>> >>>     Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure
>> section to
>> >>>     see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything
>> related.  I
>> >>>     checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as
>> well.  I
>> >>>     even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there
>> >>>     either.
>> >>>     Is this a new thing, a bug or what?
>> >>>
>> >>>     Thanks for the help.
>> >>>
>> >>>     Dale
>> >>>
>> >>>     :-)  :-)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The behaviour was changed such that dolphin opens new instances in
>> >>> tabs by default.  If you want to change that, edit the desktop file
>> >>> and add the *--new-window* option to the command.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Added that and it still opens in another instance and adds a tab.
>> After
>> >> my edit, it looks like this:
>> >>
>> >> Exec=dolphin %u --new-window
>> >>
>> >> The file I edited is located here including the file name:
>> >>
>> >> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>> >>
>> >> Did I add it to the wrong place or does it require more than that?
>> >> There are several .desktop files as listed here:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> root@fireball / # equery f kde-apps/dolphin | grep desktop
>> >> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>> >> /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.FileManager1.xml
>> >> /usr/share/kglobalaccel/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>> >> /usr/share/kservices5/dolphinpart.desktop
>> >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphingeneral.desktop
>> >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinnavigation.desktop
>> >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinservices.desktop
>> >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinviewmodes.desktop
>> >> /usr/share/kservicetypes5/fileviewversioncontrolplugin.desktop
>> >> root@fireball / #
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Dale
>> >>
>> >> :-)  :-)
>> >>
>> > Try
>> > Exec=dolphin --new-window  %u
>> >
>> > DaveF
>> >
>>
>>
>> Same results.  It opens a new tab in a already running instance.  For
>> something that can be disabled, it would seem they would document how to
>> do so or at least link to it.  I've read the online documentation for
>> Dolphin and can't find any mention of this or how to disable it.  Either
>> it isn't there or I missed it somehow, well hidden maybe.  ;-)
>>
>> Open for ideas tho.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>
> Maybe related to this:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/bze2wm/dolphin_opening_tabs_instead_of_windows_from_task/
>
>
>
> It sounds like it.  It seems it is hardcoded to do this at the moment.
> This seriously makes me want to start using another file manager.  I don't
> mind someone testing new features but at the very least, have it where it
> can be disabled for those who do not want it or are set up not to need it.
> This makes me have to do more to get to where I want.  Instead of clicking
> my Video folder for example, I have to do a Meta + e and then navigate to
> that folder.  Before this, I simply clicked the Video folder on my desktop
> and I was there.  It's the same for other folders as well.  This reminds me
> of the switch from KDE3 to KDE4 and the mess that created.  I'm beginning
> to wonder about KDE.
>
> For those who prefer this behavior, I'm sure it is a good thing.  I
> suspect tho that there are a lot who don't like this sprung on them.  If
> I'd known about this, I wouldn't have allowed the upgrade until the fix was
> released.
>
> Thanks for finding that.  At least there may be a fix coming.  If not,
> I'll find other options.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>

 The following is a reverse diff patch of the commit from D21736
<https://phabricator.kde.org/D21736>:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx6p1pc3ZC5YbAGSiRU2ttjoo7KIfG_o/view?usp=sharing
  Put it in */etc/portage/patches/dolphin-19.08.0* and re-emerge.  See if
that fixes it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Mick]

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On Friday, 23 August 2019 05:56:07 BST Dale wrote:
>   It seems it is hardcoded to do this at the moment. 
> This seriously makes me want to start using another file manager.  I
> don't mind someone testing new features but at the very least, have it
> where it can be disabled for those who do not want it or are set up not
> to need it.  

You're missing the point!  As soon as something works as most users want, or 
becoming used to at any rate, the KDE devs will <aheam!> /improve/ their 
software by breaking its most desired functionality - sometimes irrepairably.  
LOL!

Konqueror was the best file manager ever, with multiple vertical and 
horizontal window split, with kio-slaves which would process or play anything 
and everything you threw at it, with browser integration, ftp/s and sftp/fish, 
etc.  Nope, evidently konqueror wasn't good enough, so here comes dolphin 
which can't do half of what konqueror was able to offer us.  I better not 
mention kmail2, because I don't want anyone to think this message was written 
by Edgar Allan Poe.  :-(

-- 
Regards,

Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 23/08/2019 11:18, Mick wrote:
> Konqueror was the best file manager ever, with multiple vertical and
> horizontal window split, with kio-slaves which would process or play anything
> and everything you threw at it, with browser integration, ftp/s and sftp/fish,
> etc.  Nope, evidently konqueror wasn't good enough, so here comes dolphin

 From what I remember, it isn't that Konqueror wasn't good enough, it's 
that the person who developed it lost interest or didn't have the time 
for it anymore.

KDE isn't Apple or Microsoft. People work on whatever they want to work on.

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

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P Levine wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     P Levine wrote:
>>     On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 9:16 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Dave Fellows wrote:
>>         >> P Levine wrote:
>>         >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dale
>>         <rdalek1967@gmail.com <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>
>>         >>> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com
>>         <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     Howdy,
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and
>>         back in earlier and
>>         >>>     have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow
>>         one instance of
>>         >>>     Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or
>>         four running for
>>         >>>     doing different things in different locations.  It
>>         just makes it
>>         >>>     easier
>>         >>>     for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed
>>         with the new version
>>         >>>     is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7
>>         and then want
>>         >>>     to open
>>         >>>     a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already
>>         running dolphin from
>>         >>>     desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I
>>         then lose
>>         >>>     where I am
>>         >>>     when I get ready to go back to work on something in
>>         the previous
>>         >>>     instance. 
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook
>>         -activities -debug
>>         >>>     -semantic-desktop -test"
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     Previous version that worked normally:
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the
>>         Configure section to
>>         >>>     see if I can change the behavior but can't find
>>         anything related.  I
>>         >>>     checked to see if I could add a option on the command
>>         line as well.  I
>>         >>>     even poked around System Settings but can't find
>>         anything there
>>         >>>     either. 
>>         >>>     Is this a new thing, a bug or what? 
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     Thanks for the help.
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     Dale
>>         >>>
>>         >>>     :-)  :-) 
>>         >>>
>>         >>>
>>         >>> The behaviour was changed such that dolphin opens new
>>         instances in
>>         >>> tabs by default.  If you want to change that, edit the
>>         desktop file
>>         >>> and add the *--new-window* option to the command.
>>         >>>
>>         >>
>>         >> Added that and it still opens in another instance and adds
>>         a tab.  After
>>         >> my edit, it looks like this:
>>         >>
>>         >> Exec=dolphin %u --new-window
>>         >>
>>         >> The file I edited is located here including the file name:
>>         >>
>>         >> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>>         >>
>>         >> Did I add it to the wrong place or does it require more
>>         than that? 
>>         >> There are several .desktop files as listed here:
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >> root@fireball / # equery f kde-apps/dolphin | grep desktop
>>         >> /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>>         >> /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.FileManager1.xml
>>         >> /usr/share/kglobalaccel/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>>         >> /usr/share/kservices5/dolphinpart.desktop
>>         >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphingeneral.desktop
>>         >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinnavigation.desktop
>>         >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinservices.desktop
>>         >> /usr/share/kservices5/kcmdolphinviewmodes.desktop
>>         >> /usr/share/kservicetypes5/fileviewversioncontrolplugin.desktop
>>         >> root@fireball / #
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >> Thanks.
>>         >>
>>         >> Dale
>>         >>
>>         >> :-)  :-) 
>>         >>
>>         > Try
>>         > Exec=dolphin --new-window  %u
>>         >
>>         > DaveF
>>         >
>>
>>
>>         Same results.  It opens a new tab in a already running
>>         instance.  For
>>         something that can be disabled, it would seem they would
>>         document how to
>>         do so or at least link to it.  I've read the online
>>         documentation for
>>         Dolphin and can't find any mention of this or how to disable
>>         it.  Either
>>         it isn't there or I missed it somehow, well hidden maybe.  ;-) 
>>
>>         Open for ideas tho. 
>>
>>         Thanks.
>>
>>         Dale
>>
>>         :-)  :-) 
>>
>>
>>     Maybe related to
>>     this: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/bze2wm/dolphin_opening_tabs_instead_of_windows_from_task/
>
>
>     It sounds like it.  It seems it is hardcoded to do this at the
>     moment.  This seriously makes me want to start using another file
>     manager.  I don't mind someone testing new features but at the
>     very least, have it where it can be disabled for those who do not
>     want it or are set up not to need it.  This makes me have to do
>     more to get to where I want.  Instead of clicking my Video folder
>     for example, I have to do a Meta + e and then navigate to that
>     folder.  Before this, I simply clicked the Video folder on my
>     desktop and I was there.  It's the same for other folders as
>     well.  This reminds me of the switch from KDE3 to KDE4 and the
>     mess that created.  I'm beginning to wonder about KDE.  
>
>     For those who prefer this behavior, I'm sure it is a good thing. 
>     I suspect tho that there are a lot who don't like this sprung on
>     them.  If I'd known about this, I wouldn't have allowed the
>     upgrade until the fix was released. 
>
>     Thanks for finding that.  At least there may be a fix coming.  If
>     not, I'll find other options. 
>
>     Dale
>
>     :-)  :-) 
>
>
>  The following is a reverse diff patch of the commit from D21736
> <https://phabricator.kde.org/D21736>:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx6p1pc3ZC5YbAGSiRU2ttjoo7KIfG_o/view?usp=sharing
>   Put it in */etc/portage/patches/dolphin-19.08.0* and re-emerge.  See
> if that fixes it.
>


Got the patch applied, still opens in a new tab.  Thought maybe I needed
to log out and back in again so when I got to a spot where I could, I
did so.  Clicked on a folder on my desktop, new tab in a already running
instance of Dolphin.  Can I wrap my hands around a devs neck and squeeze
yet?  Pretty please?  LOL 

I did check, the patch did apply.  At first I forgot to set the
permissions to portage:portage but emerge was so kind to remind me, by
puking on my keyboard.  ;-)  After that, it emerged without error. 

I'm considering either going back to a older version or changing file
managers.  This is ridiculous.  Why they couldn't make this change not
the default I'll never know.  Make the change, set it as a option,
announce it for those who want to use it and let it work like it was. 
It's not like the previous way was broken or anything.  Jeez. 

Thanks for trying.  I'm open to ideas but I still want my hands on that
neck.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Mick wrote:
> On Friday, 23 August 2019 05:56:07 BST Dale wrote:
>>   It seems it is hardcoded to do this at the moment. 
>> This seriously makes me want to start using another file manager.  I
>> don't mind someone testing new features but at the very least, have it
>> where it can be disabled for those who do not want it or are set up not
>> to need it.  
> You're missing the point!  As soon as something works as most users want, or 
> becoming used to at any rate, the KDE devs will <aheam!> /improve/ their 
> software by breaking its most desired functionality - sometimes irrepairably.  
> LOL!
>
> Konqueror was the best file manager ever, with multiple vertical and 
> horizontal window split, with kio-slaves which would process or play anything 
> and everything you threw at it, with browser integration, ftp/s and sftp/fish, 
> etc.  Nope, evidently konqueror wasn't good enough, so here comes dolphin 
> which can't do half of what konqueror was able to offer us.  I better not 
> mention kmail2, because I don't want anyone to think this message was written 
> by Edgar Allan Poe.  :-(
>


I hear you very clearly.  I had my desktop set up just like I needed it
so that I didn't have to spend time navigating to things.  Bad thing is,
by the time I figured out it was clobbering already running instances, I
had closed some tabs/windows and lost my place.  On a couple of them,
there is no way for me to know where I left off.  When I stop editing
pictures or videos for example, I always highlight or select the last
one I did.  If I'm going to logout or something, I write all that info
down so I know where I left off.  When a tab gets closed and I don't
write it down, no clue where I was at.  It's one reason I had to wait a
bit to logout and back in to test that patch.  I had to get to a
stopping place and not be downloading anything either.  It takes time to
get to that spot.  This new feature really messed me up.  If they going
to release some change like this, they should warn people about it. 
Sort of like Gentoo's news item or something and already have a way to
do it the old way. 

I remember Konqueror. It's still around I think but a lot of things are
broken or removed last I looked.  Thing is, you could do a LOT of things
with that one tool.  Need to copy from another system, no problem.  Need
it done securely, still not a problem.  Need a plain file manager, no
problem.  That thing was powerful to say the least.  Honestly, I still
miss the thing.  I really liked running it as root as a file manager.  I
never used it to access the internet as root but as a file manager, it
was awesome.  Dolphin started to stink so much, I switched to Krusader. 

Yea, those were the days.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Franz Fellner]

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You might want to have a play with kbuildsycoca5 after editing .desktop
files.
Look at the options (--help I think, or --help-all), I can't help with that
ATM.
It should rebuild the system config cache - reparse the .desktop files.

Good luck
Franz

Am Fr., 23. Aug. 2019 um 12:49 Uhr schrieb Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:

> Mick wrote:
> > On Friday, 23 August 2019 05:56:07 BST Dale wrote:
> >>   It seems it is hardcoded to do this at the moment.
> >> This seriously makes me want to start using another file manager.  I
> >> don't mind someone testing new features but at the very least, have it
> >> where it can be disabled for those who do not want it or are set up not
> >> to need it.
> > You're missing the point!  As soon as something works as most users
> want, or
> > becoming used to at any rate, the KDE devs will <aheam!> /improve/ their
> > software by breaking its most desired functionality - sometimes
> irrepairably.
> > LOL!
> >
> > Konqueror was the best file manager ever, with multiple vertical and
> > horizontal window split, with kio-slaves which would process or play
> anything
> > and everything you threw at it, with browser integration, ftp/s and
> sftp/fish,
> > etc.  Nope, evidently konqueror wasn't good enough, so here comes
> dolphin
> > which can't do half of what konqueror was able to offer us.  I better
> not
> > mention kmail2, because I don't want anyone to think this message was
> written
> > by Edgar Allan Poe.  :-(
> >
>
>
> I hear you very clearly.  I had my desktop set up just like I needed it
> so that I didn't have to spend time navigating to things.  Bad thing is,
> by the time I figured out it was clobbering already running instances, I
> had closed some tabs/windows and lost my place.  On a couple of them,
> there is no way for me to know where I left off.  When I stop editing
> pictures or videos for example, I always highlight or select the last
> one I did.  If I'm going to logout or something, I write all that info
> down so I know where I left off.  When a tab gets closed and I don't
> write it down, no clue where I was at.  It's one reason I had to wait a
> bit to logout and back in to test that patch.  I had to get to a
> stopping place and not be downloading anything either.  It takes time to
> get to that spot.  This new feature really messed me up.  If they going
> to release some change like this, they should warn people about it.
> Sort of like Gentoo's news item or something and already have a way to
> do it the old way.
>
> I remember Konqueror. It's still around I think but a lot of things are
> broken or removed last I looked.  Thing is, you could do a LOT of things
> with that one tool.  Need to copy from another system, no problem.  Need
> it done securely, still not a problem.  Need a plain file manager, no
> problem.  That thing was powerful to say the least.  Honestly, I still
> miss the thing.  I really liked running it as root as a file manager.  I
> never used it to access the internet as root but as a file manager, it
> was awesome.  Dolphin started to stink so much, I switched to Krusader.
>
> Yea, those were the days.  lol
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Mick]

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On Friday, 23 August 2019 09:27:55 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 23/08/2019 11:18, Mick wrote:
> > Konqueror was the best file manager ever, with multiple vertical and
> > horizontal window split, with kio-slaves which would process or play
> > anything and everything you threw at it, with browser integration, ftp/s
> > and sftp/fish, etc.  Nope, evidently konqueror wasn't good enough, so
> > here comes dolphin
>  From what I remember, it isn't that Konqueror wasn't good enough, it's
> that the person who developed it lost interest or didn't have the time
> for it anymore.

Yes, the world moves on and so do devs with their decisions.  With the move 
from KDE3 to KDE4 some devs had the inspired decision to develop a new file 
manager, which would be a file manager only - Konqueror was like a Swiss army 
knife, a multitool in your Linux pocket.

From what they had written at the time I understand they came to an 
architectural decision for KDE4 to only keep one app for each task.  It is 
reasonable to want to focus their horsepower on other KDE4 development needs 
and not diffuse their efforts on various applications just duplicating 
functionality.  This decision also leads to simpler apps, simpler to maintain. 


> KDE isn't Apple or Microsoft. People work on whatever they want to work on.

This was a conscious developer team decision, rather than some dev deciding to 
develop what gave them personal pleasure.  Still, I'm missing Konqueror all 
the same.  I now end up using more than one application to perform tasks where 
a multi-view Konqueror instance would suffice:

- file manager
- sftp client to remote server
- webdav(s) client to remote server
- audio CD rip/transcoder (it would present the audio content in multiple 
formats to drag and drop on your drive, ripping on demand)
- PDF viewer
- video player/viewer
- archiver
- gpg/smime file encryption/signing
- internet browser
- navigation (bookmarks/block devices/networks)

Of course, Konqueror did not perform all these functions using some native 
code itself, but the GUI-fied seamlessness with which it hooked up to the 
requisite kio-slave to do what you asked without getting in the way, was what 
I really admired in it.

-- 
Regards,

Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Franz Fellner wrote:
> You might want to have a play with kbuildsycoca5 after editing
> .desktop files.
> Look at the options (--help I think, or --help-all), I can't help with
> that ATM.
> It should rebuild the system config cache - reparse the .desktop files.
>
> Good luck
> Franz
>


That lead me to a new thought.  Even tho I logged out and all, maybe it
does need a extra step. Then it hit me, like a ton of bricks as they
say.  I right clicked on the K menu thingy and selected edit.  I then
found Dolphin under System and added the --new-window option to that
command.  When I hit save, I'm pretty sure it rebuilds those entries you
mentioned since it takes several seconds.  After doing that I went to a
empty desktop and clicked on a folder.  It opened a new window and left
the others alone.  Pardon me for just a moment.  YEPPIE!!!!!!!  One more
second.  YEPPIE!!!! 

I don't know if it is the patch or the option added in the K menu or it
rebuilding its entries but it works.  Honestly, I don't care which it is
as long as it works. 

Thanks to all.  Now I can work as usual without losing my place when I
forget it clobbers my stuff. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Thomas Mueller]

> You're missing the point!  As soon as something works as most users want, or
> becoming used to at any rate, the KDE devs will <aheam!> /improve/ their 
> software by breaking its most desired functionality - sometimes irrepairably.
> LOL!

> Konqueror was the best file manager ever, with multiple vertical and
> horizontal window split, with kio-slaves which would process or play anything
> and everything you threw at it, with browser integration, ftp/s and sftp/fish,
> etc.  Nope, evidently konqueror wasn't good enough, so here comes dolphin
> which can't do half of what konqueror was able to offer us.  I better not
> mention kmail2, because I don't want anyone to think this message was written
> by Edgar Allan Poe.  :-(

> Regards,

> Mick

I used Konqueror long ago, in the days of KDE 3.5.8, on Slackware, it was a great info viewer, much better than Emacs or info itself; also a good web browser.  At that time, I had never heard of Gentoo.  Now all I have to read info is pinfo.

When KDE went to 4.x, I had a much more difficult time finding my way, even icewm was much better.

Now it's been I-forget-how-many years since I last used KDE.

I am still not a fan of info, one of the downsides of GNU/Linux.

Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[J. Roeleveld]

On Saturday, August 17, 2019 4:56:01 AM CET Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
> have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
> Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running for
> doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it easier
> for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new version
> is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want to open
> a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin from
> desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose where I am
> when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous instance. 
> 
> Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
> 
> kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
> -semantic-desktop -test"
> 
> Previous version that worked normally:
> 
> kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
> 
> Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure section to
> see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything related.  I
> checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as well.  I
> even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there either. 
> Is this a new thing, a bug or what? 
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

Dale (and others),

I found the location where this setting is.
you need to go to "Configure Dolphin" (In my case, I had to add this to the 
toolbar as I am missing the drop down menu).
Then in the "Startup" part, I see "Open new folders in tabs" ticked.
If you disable that, you get your folders back in new windows.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 4:56:01 AM CET Dale wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
>> have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
>> Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running for
>> doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it easier
>> for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new version
>> is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want to open
>> a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin from
>> desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose where I am
>> when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous instance. 
>>
>> Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
>>
>> kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
>> -semantic-desktop -test"
>>
>> Previous version that worked normally:
>>
>> kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure section to
>> see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything related.  I
>> checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as well.  I
>> even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there either. 
>> Is this a new thing, a bug or what? 
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> Dale (and others),
>
> I found the location where this setting is.
> you need to go to "Configure Dolphin" (In my case, I had to add this to the 
> toolbar as I am missing the drop down menu).
> Then in the "Startup" part, I see "Open new folders in tabs" ticked.
> If you disable that, you get your folders back in new windows.
>
> --
> Joost
>

I don't see "open new folders in tabs" listed here.  Hmmm.  What could
cause that.  USE flag maybe?? 


[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.12.3:5::gentoo  USE="handbook
-activities -debug -semantic-desktop -test"


Well, nothing there that is obvious.  I wonder why I don't have that
option here??  It makes sense to have it set that way.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[J. Roeleveld]

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On Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:46:06 AM CET Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 17, 2019 4:56:01 AM CET Dale wrote:
> >> Howdy,
> >> 
> >> I upgraded my system last night.  I logged out and back in earlier and
> >> have noticed something new.  It seems to only allow one instance of
> >> Dolphin to run at a time.  I usually have three or four running for
> >> doing different things in different locations.  It just makes it easier
> >> for me to multi-task at times.  What I've noticed with the new version
> >> is that if I have a instance open on say desktop 7 and then want to open
> >> a new instance on desktop 4, it moves the already running dolphin from
> >> desktop 7 to 4.  It doesn't open a new instance.  I then lose where I am
> >> when I get ready to go back to work on something in the previous
> >> instance.
> >> 
> >> Current version of Dolphin and USE flags:
> >> 
> >> kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5::gentoo  USE="handbook -activities -debug
> >> -semantic-desktop -test"
> >> 
> >> Previous version that worked normally:
> >> 
> >> kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3
> >> 
> >> Has anyone else noticed this?  I've looked in the Configure section to
> >> see if I can change the behavior but can't find anything related.  I
> >> checked to see if I could add a option on the command line as well.  I
> >> even poked around System Settings but can't find anything there either.
> >> Is this a new thing, a bug or what?
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the help.
> >> 
> >> Dale
> >> 
> >> :-)  :-)
> > 
> > Dale (and others),
> > 
> > I found the location where this setting is.
> > you need to go to "Configure Dolphin" (In my case, I had to add this to
> > the
> > toolbar as I am missing the drop down menu).
> > Then in the "Startup" part, I see "Open new folders in tabs" ticked.
> > If you disable that, you get your folders back in new windows.
> > 
> > --
> > Joost
> 
> I don't see "open new folders in tabs" listed here.  Hmmm.  What could
> cause that.  USE flag maybe?? 
> 
> 
> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.12.3:5::gentoo  USE="handbook
> -activities -debug -semantic-desktop -test"
> 
> 
> Well, nothing there that is obvious.  I wonder why I don't have that
> option here??  It makes sense to have it set that way.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

This is mine:
[I] kde-apps/dolphin
     Available versions:  (5) 19.08.3^t{tbz2} ~19.12.3^t
       {activities debug +handbook semantic-desktop test}
     Installed versions:  19.08.3(5)^t{tbz2}(08:28:36 PM 01/16/2020)
(activities handbook semantic-desktop -debug -test)
     Homepage:            https://kde.org/applications/system/org.kde.dolphin 
https://userbase.kde.org/Dolphin
     Description:         Plasma filemanager focusing on usability


Due to the current situation, I am slower with updates. Hope it didn't get 
removed.
I do have activities and semantic-desktop enabled on mine.

I attached a screenshot where I found the setting.

I also found it in the config-file:

FILE: ~/.config/dolphinrc

SECTION:
---

[General]
OpenExternallyCalledFolderInNewTab=false
Version=200
ViewPropsTimestamp=2016,6,16,18,3,14

---

If you can't find the setting in the menus, maybe this will work.

--
Joost

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:46:06 AM CET Dale wrote:
>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>
>>> Dale (and others),
>>>
>>> I found the location where this setting is.
>>> you need to go to "Configure Dolphin" (In my case, I had to add this to
>>> the
>>> toolbar as I am missing the drop down menu).
>>> Then in the "Startup" part, I see "Open new folders in tabs" ticked.
>>> If you disable that, you get your folders back in new windows.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>> I don't see "open new folders in tabs" listed here.  Hmmm.  What could
>> cause that.  USE flag maybe?? 
>>
>>
>> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.12.3:5::gentoo  USE="handbook
>> -activities -debug -semantic-desktop -test"
>>
>>
>> Well, nothing there that is obvious.  I wonder why I don't have that
>> option here??  It makes sense to have it set that way.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> This is mine:
> [I] kde-apps/dolphin
>      Available versions:  (5) 19.08.3^t{tbz2} ~19.12.3^t
>        {activities debug +handbook semantic-desktop test}
>      Installed versions:  19.08.3(5)^t{tbz2}(08:28:36 PM 01/16/2020)
> (activities handbook semantic-desktop -debug -test)
>      Homepage:            https://kde.org/applications/system/org.kde.dolphin 
> https://userbase.kde.org/Dolphin
>      Description:         Plasma filemanager focusing on usability
>
>
> Due to the current situation, I am slower with updates. Hope it didn't get 
> removed.
> I do have activities and semantic-desktop enabled on mine.
>
> I attached a screenshot where I found the setting.
>
> I also found it in the config-file:
>
> FILE: ~/.config/dolphinrc
>
> SECTION:
> ---
>
> [General]
> OpenExternallyCalledFolderInNewTab=false
> Version=200
> ViewPropsTimestamp=2016,6,16,18,3,14
>
> ---
>
> If you can't find the setting in the menus, maybe this will work.
>
> --
> Joost

Interesting.  I looked in my dolphinrc config file and the
OpenExternally* line is not there at all.  I added it to the file, just
for giggles.  I'll logout Sunday or Monday and then try to figure out
what I can use to open a tab and see if that setting works or not. 

My screen looks just like yours except for the missing bit I need.  Just
like me to have that huh?  lol

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:47:37 GMT Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:

> > I do have activities and semantic-desktop enabled on mine.
> > 
> > I attached a screenshot where I found the setting.
> > 
> > I also found it in the config-file:
> > 
> > FILE: ~/.config/dolphinrc
> > 
> > SECTION:
> > ---
> > 
> > [General]
> > OpenExternallyCalledFolderInNewTab=false
> > Version=200
> > ViewPropsTimestamp=2016,6,16,18,3,14

> > If you can't find the setting in the menus, maybe this will work.

> Interesting.  I looked in my dolphinrc config file and the
> OpenExternally* line is not there at all.  I added it to the file, just
> for giggles.  I'll logout Sunday or Monday and then try to figure out
> what I can use to open a tab and see if that setting works or not. 
> 
> My screen looks just like yours except for the missing bit I need.  Just
> like me to have that huh?  lol

Could it be the semantic-desktop difference?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:47:37 GMT Dale wrote:
>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> I do have activities and semantic-desktop enabled on mine.
>>>
>>> I attached a screenshot where I found the setting.
>>>
>>> I also found it in the config-file:
>>>
>>> FILE: ~/.config/dolphinrc
>>>
>>> SECTION:
>>> ---
>>>
>>> [General]
>>> OpenExternallyCalledFolderInNewTab=false
>>> Version=200
>>> ViewPropsTimestamp=2016,6,16,18,3,14
>>> If you can't find the setting in the menus, maybe this will work.
>> Interesting.  I looked in my dolphinrc config file and the
>> OpenExternally* line is not there at all.  I added it to the file, just
>> for giggles.  I'll logout Sunday or Monday and then try to figure out
>> what I can use to open a tab and see if that setting works or not. 
>>
>> My screen looks just like yours except for the missing bit I need.  Just
>> like me to have that huh?  lol
> Could it be the semantic-desktop difference?
>


Might.  Isn't that some sort of search tool?  I looked into it ages ago
but don't recall what it does actually.  I'm hoping it will notice the
setting in the config file even tho it isn't in the menu options. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[J. Roeleveld]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:47:37 AM CET Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:46:06 AM CET Dale wrote:
> >> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >>> Dale (and others),
> >>> 
> >>> I found the location where this setting is.
> >>> you need to go to "Configure Dolphin" (In my case, I had to add this to
> >>> the
> >>> toolbar as I am missing the drop down menu).
> >>> Then in the "Startup" part, I see "Open new folders in tabs" ticked.
> >>> If you disable that, you get your folders back in new windows.
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Joost
> >> 
> >> I don't see "open new folders in tabs" listed here.  Hmmm.  What could
> >> cause that.  USE flag maybe??
> >> 
> >> 
> >> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.12.3:5::gentoo  USE="handbook
> >> -activities -debug -semantic-desktop -test"
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Well, nothing there that is obvious.  I wonder why I don't have that
> >> option here??  It makes sense to have it set that way.
> >> 
> >> Dale
> >> 
> >> :-)  :-)
> > 
> > This is mine:
> > [I] kde-apps/dolphin
> > 
> >      Available versions:  (5) 19.08.3^t{tbz2} ~19.12.3^t
> >      
> >        {activities debug +handbook semantic-desktop test}
> >      
> >      Installed versions:  19.08.3(5)^t{tbz2}(08:28:36 PM 01/16/2020)
> > 
> > (activities handbook semantic-desktop -debug -test)
> > 
> >      Homepage:           
> >      https://kde.org/applications/system/org.kde.dolphin
> > 
> > https://userbase.kde.org/Dolphin
> > 
> >      Description:         Plasma filemanager focusing on usability
> > 
> > Due to the current situation, I am slower with updates. Hope it didn't get
> > removed.
> > I do have activities and semantic-desktop enabled on mine.
> > 
> > I attached a screenshot where I found the setting.
> > 
> > I also found it in the config-file:
> > 
> > FILE: ~/.config/dolphinrc
> > 
> > SECTION:
> > ---
> > 
> > [General]
> > OpenExternallyCalledFolderInNewTab=false
> > Version=200
> > ViewPropsTimestamp=2016,6,16,18,3,14
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > If you can't find the setting in the menus, maybe this will work.
> > 
> > --
> > Joost
> 
> Interesting.  I looked in my dolphinrc config file and the
> OpenExternally* line is not there at all.  I added it to the file, just
> for giggles.  I'll logout Sunday or Monday and then try to figure out
> what I can use to open a tab and see if that setting works or not. 
> 
> My screen looks just like yours except for the missing bit I need.  Just
> like me to have that huh?  lol
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

Previously in the thread someone posted a patch to roll-back this change.
I did not apply that myself, it could be that that roll-back-patch is 
preventing this option from appearing/working.

Do you still have that patch applied on your system?

Also, changing the tick-box worked immediately on my system. Changing the 
config-file directly might require ALL dolphin instances from being killed.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[J. Roeleveld]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:03:46 AM CET Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:47:37 GMT Dale wrote:
> > J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > I do have activities and semantic-desktop enabled on mine.
> > > 
> > > I attached a screenshot where I found the setting.
> > > 
> > > I also found it in the config-file:
> > > 
> > > FILE: ~/.config/dolphinrc
> > > 
> > > SECTION:
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > [General]
> > > OpenExternallyCalledFolderInNewTab=false
> > > Version=200
> > > ViewPropsTimestamp=2016,6,16,18,3,14
> > > 
> > > If you can't find the setting in the menus, maybe this will work.
> > 
> > Interesting.  I looked in my dolphinrc config file and the
> > OpenExternally* line is not there at all.  I added it to the file, just
> > for giggles.  I'll logout Sunday or Monday and then try to figure out
> > what I can use to open a tab and see if that setting works or not.
> > 
> > My screen looks just like yours except for the missing bit I need.  Just
> > like me to have that huh?  lol
> 
> Could it be the semantic-desktop difference?

Possibly, but I fail to see what semantic-desktop has to do with this setting.
I would sooner expect it in the patch Dale applied earlier in this thread.

Especially as I see the exact same text in removed-lines as I see in my 
config-file.

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Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[J. Roeleveld]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:49:56 AM CET J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:03:46 AM CET Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:47:37 GMT Dale wrote:
> > > J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > > I do have activities and semantic-desktop enabled on mine.
> > > > 
> > > > I attached a screenshot where I found the setting.
> > > > 
> > > > I also found it in the config-file:
> > > > 
> > > > FILE: ~/.config/dolphinrc
> > > > 
> > > > SECTION:
> > > > ---
> > > > 
> > > > [General]
> > > > OpenExternallyCalledFolderInNewTab=false
> > > > Version=200
> > > > ViewPropsTimestamp=2016,6,16,18,3,14
> > > > 
> > > > If you can't find the setting in the menus, maybe this will work.
> > > 
> > > Interesting.  I looked in my dolphinrc config file and the
> > > OpenExternally* line is not there at all.  I added it to the file, just
> > > for giggles.  I'll logout Sunday or Monday and then try to figure out
> > > what I can use to open a tab and see if that setting works or not.
> > > 
> > > My screen looks just like yours except for the missing bit I need.  Just
> > > like me to have that huh?  lol
> > 
> > Could it be the semantic-desktop difference?
> 
> Possibly, but I fail to see what semantic-desktop has to do with this
> setting. I would sooner expect it in the patch Dale applied earlier in this
> thread.
> 
> Especially as I see the exact same text in removed-lines as I see in my
> config-file.
> 
> --
> Joost

Checking that patch further, I think it only removed the config-items, not the 
default behaviour.

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Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update

[Dale]

J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:47:37 AM CET Dale wrote:
>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:46:06 AM CET Dale wrote:
>>>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>>> Dale (and others),
>>>>>
>>>>> I found the location where this setting is.
>>>>> you need to go to "Configure Dolphin" (In my case, I had to add this to
>>>>> the
>>>>> toolbar as I am missing the drop down menu).
>>>>> Then in the "Startup" part, I see "Open new folders in tabs" ticked.
>>>>> If you disable that, you get your folders back in new windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joost
>>>> I don't see "open new folders in tabs" listed here.  Hmmm.  What could
>>>> cause that.  USE flag maybe??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.12.3:5::gentoo  USE="handbook
>>>> -activities -debug -semantic-desktop -test"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, nothing there that is obvious.  I wonder why I don't have that
>>>> option here??  It makes sense to have it set that way.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>> :-)  :-)
>>> This is mine:
>>> [I] kde-apps/dolphin
>>>
>>>      Available versions:  (5) 19.08.3^t{tbz2} ~19.12.3^t
>>>      
>>>        {activities debug +handbook semantic-desktop test}
>>>      
>>>      Installed versions:  19.08.3(5)^t{tbz2}(08:28:36 PM 01/16/2020)
>>>
>>> (activities handbook semantic-desktop -debug -test)
>>>
>>>      Homepage:           
>>>      https://kde.org/applications/system/org.kde.dolphin
>>>
>>> https://userbase.kde.org/Dolphin
>>>
>>>      Description:         Plasma filemanager focusing on usability
>>>
>>> Due to the current situation, I am slower with updates. Hope it didn't get
>>> removed.
>>> I do have activities and semantic-desktop enabled on mine.
>>>
>>> I attached a screenshot where I found the setting.
>>>
>>> I also found it in the config-file:
>>>
>>> FILE: ~/.config/dolphinrc
>>>
>>> SECTION:
>>> ---
>>>
>>> [General]
>>> OpenExternallyCalledFolderInNewTab=false
>>> Version=200
>>> ViewPropsTimestamp=2016,6,16,18,3,14
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> If you can't find the setting in the menus, maybe this will work.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>> Interesting.  I looked in my dolphinrc config file and the
>> OpenExternally* line is not there at all.  I added it to the file, just
>> for giggles.  I'll logout Sunday or Monday and then try to figure out
>> what I can use to open a tab and see if that setting works or not. 
>>
>> My screen looks just like yours except for the missing bit I need.  Just
>> like me to have that huh?  lol
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> Previously in the thread someone posted a patch to roll-back this change.
> I did not apply that myself, it could be that that roll-back-patch is 
> preventing this option from appearing/working.
>
> Do you still have that patch applied on your system?
>
> Also, changing the tick-box worked immediately on my system. Changing the 
> config-file directly might require ALL dolphin instances from being killed.
>
> --
> Joost

I do still have the patch there and since there was no error, I assume
it applied.  I'll move it to another location and recompile later on.  I
do my updates tomorrow anyway.

Dale

:-)  :-)