From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7A4B1381F3 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 01:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE744E08BD; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 01:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sonic303-25.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic303-25.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.64.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 405FFE0891 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 01:59:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=verizon.net; s=a2048; t=1591581560; bh=XazjoYcNSE3kVO75TZzomvIDQ5SqIKAnaY3EBKcjBgw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=cXszfHgbbCutPMbl1mKLxrp4MHIeqilmzW2pFDejLkQodaqcb6DFfv+99tNCP8mpyu/BsULI9egjI6gSbkF+W8hkTTmKSOxAHAoFXPT5CU88CbF4YaGdm2KJ+Cz0VROEHVpw1HfSMfEX7aRpfVUfmR4UKd7iu53PrbVcgmo4M0dSjk1t83U1TpDX+tUxupJ+61MbInkmIT6hJYPQp/cwa0H8czckt3QOUK/azsz6kqAPEIC1glwGtGr5E6gyvVvCw7UOdWGVb3wozhVXtK4bx1H7BdwCZv80RhLPkPPhbSasPz/L8NGI6RIViAKLLTyLBRI0HZrwjXnYi8B1Ia4WHg== X-YMail-OSG: m5Y86QYVM1nZodiFvncWuWYyK1RwfIRf82L9En6xov1fI8P9cZLNFLYCHtaOfXe Kvu9JZ3Rx.Ty41kl1E.eFN8O2aF.yzLs.4we1F4DGF2i7jzhr3RMPguIqYHDbEXbUEJKEA8WIM5E IKL12CDo61mAQtN9Elg1cscrKyxWMdIhZ7qYM0CrGZk1ADOv57voOdOb3LlY4BPzVx_doiuS0_AF Dz2x0sgO5wB35oSOGHf7_zcFn3jbdImJW6VY0UvjpNUGuOMGDHux5ZpTDrmhIQY3uWuJjGfFKpfL k8K5XfOqBVktmkGX6QPGGkEKYUYFpYITW5eyUxuqglU5Ka1vvtrcT3Fx7yLLB5qTX4NpEbGqGHU8 gkCE7WOnr6.OCxvRqHENd7qfmsPJC521R2pGiuGL72JnEe2a5gsERRf6A.xGLUQBgAp3ELOBEqJR eXsghRJNBzjh2goBvbQPnmLikBdIqdi0QA.R42JCsYnQHkOxofPOYKbRRNgd_PjWQSCkHB3eZL7Z jlSxz8UUVs4zCMjfAUDP2QKd1iNN5CKw9TkmOTgptVaN23d_fDWLqGWbUF_M_1HaNo4t3mDzsoYd m6PVwKj3yEoCDqHuocS8kMRdeSVvsalgGKvQ70rhD0d74Ik51KgIRcPxswAFX31MROS8JUQrzdbj Sij3LN2zUWn9xCQDsXlxdNWCCeCq9bGOAbEOeVHGM4ZGNua6QO6icASX5TFBmPtDzg570RxUne60 tF.4_5WVabmUOAPvC0hXudXcIGDipzCGtLYKfAFucTk66qk9VjOSbtcem_0xFYnxU8vMKBPQ523R .ltOAn5sdi0_aQWMlR_EO3j6q5ZtaLtVmyhMF4it8xZen4NsIyg3gsvKt79QxFhz2Gjd_NeXPTeV UMhpVww_dbWN03Zc5O3FgS0_6NZ19D5H8pVOi_av8aWFXOjQ8AE3yvW9HSNXzxJ0iOrRZfkDyMaA 6cYKTmrqXrUlRqjvLlsJBD9B8q6K5f6J1Xs6EzPxfVbfKPON1fdzR7dl9AwUwqYkHMZIT.Km0uz2 X1rFal_3CDkUo7wEME_AYSOF4OdUq89fC27xfRlKeUNQZu2wqqXqOheRDolYlZK1uBk7UQf9K_np k6LPdc9_HIQaoqFgx8rILb.s98zdGsDr.JfrCMWtR9AiyFNh6mmOI4K.rLA.iKBs.9uY8SGjHsKT 9UYZpL_nCllX6PPPTtGJaD9ux.MI_CQhjtB8R1dhsoZammkmkE.dduzhtKiRT.q7PwnTdDW8FQqK 6GaaxfjNWS.d3F8_4VHph3p9M.9OJlXMMW.BbT4S8WxfvgVuuEqQjTd4FLKxRmFniwLMKVYiurOL jiqC1oiHU619bfnWmme8pel06ugGl7jFMqeQhvP4_9QThH2WJLoLjIcIFfGDKMnRipzuY82HV2is YBIxxBh.3oR7YFv4iQS80umsRtHPOOp0PcyqovrNE4w-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 01:59:20 +0000 Received: by smtp412.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 05df2b662a19bd1337dd0402b6a79e39; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 01:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive screws To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20672991.EfDdHjke4D@lenovo.localdomain> <868A775B-94D9-42D0-90E2-25ADD8D35E79@antarean.org> <9bfd16c5-b3c9-22b6-1f89-138afdaa30d0@youngman.org.uk> <115cad84-3112-8906-943a-19e53e0c6be4@gmail.com> From: james Message-ID: <5bf3fa37-edd6-403b-bde0-c51f7fc0c0f8@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 21:59:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <115cad84-3112-8906-943a-19e53e0c6be4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16072 hermes_aol Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.6) X-Archives-Salt: eadbc1e5-2339-4b93-8dbf-9eefc82a754b X-Archives-Hash: 255404fa5ee413ec3e4b52d7a3772081 On 6/7/20 5:24 PM, Dale wrote: > antlists wrote: >> On 07/06/2020 10:50, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On 7 June 2020 09:41:16 CEST, antlists wrote: >>>> On 06/06/2020 20:14, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>>>> One of my old cases had plastic strips with little sticks on them >>>> that would fit into the screwholes. Those strips would then slot into >>>> the mounting points for the disks. >>>>> >>>>> No messing around with screws and really easy to swap drives. They >>>> would be perfectly mounted as well. >>>>> >>>>> Too bad I don't see the same with most other cases. >>>> >>>> I remember that. Compaqs with 75 MEGA Hz cpu's iirc. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Wol >>> >>> Not just Compaq. I think mine was a coolermaster case at the time. >>> >>> Toolless hotswap is a useful feature when regularly swapping drives. >>> >> These weren't hotswap (just ordinary IDE), but it's a damn sight >> easier putting the rails on a drive on a desk, rather than putting the >> screws in a drive in a case :-) >> >> Cheers, >> Wol >> >> > > > My Cooler Master HAF-932 has no screws for drives either.� It has those > plastic frames with these rubber and metal pins that take the place of > screws.� Once the frame is inserted into the drive cage, those pins > can't let go of the drive.� I might add, if the pins are inserted > properly, the plastic frame won't go into the cage either. I like the > design part but I hope the plastic part never breaks. They ain't cheap > or easy to find at times. > > Oh, my mobo supports hot swap SATA so all are hot swappable too. I'm not > sure if I have a IDE connector.� It might but I'm not sure. > > Dale > > :-)� :-) Dale, It's a bit late now, but here goes. When I spend money, I always request the entire box of parts, for the mobo, drives, gpu cards, etc etc. Most vendors will talk to direct, over email, chat etc. I then have plastic organizer boxes with dozens or more small compartments and lids to these boxes. So I save all sorts of screws, from 30 years back to now, always. It's a bit of an extreme, but as an avid hardware hacker, I use those collections, almost weekly to fix/enhance mounts, cases, antennas and all sorts of custom rigs....... Also, you can find collections of such for less than $50 on the net. Great to have, but I have over 1,000 sq. ft. or more of all sorts of new and old hardware I've collected up over the decades. Skycraft in Orlando is just one of many great places to purchase inexpensive excess hardware. https://skycraftsurplus.com/ Also, local computer shops will sell you hordes of excess screws and such; just talk to them. When you are spending money, it is real easy to collect up excess screws and such from most vendors, for next to nothing. But then, I hardware hack of hundreds/thousands of different hardware systems. hth, James