From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N2tqi-0000qQ-W9 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:45:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17B1BE07C9; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f224.google.com (mail-gx0-f224.google.com [209.85.217.224]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D790DE07C9 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so427377gxk.6 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dMD1734gwCZ6wPR5UOgrrcihc/kepKt2bxbiWg3PCKw=; b=juPa+OhfwVBU1rJA9flwQjWzeyfGxCYy7kUfb+IP+MX9rWyxX12hFmPxrYPMBeAWm1 jtswT0IUQ4WWOl6Sj8tMDdMhc5Kzcpzpcko6rZwQsCOleh0wYeM4QHFCHu9ZxEfz/ylG yQdDXr2K+iBax08cwrs/ue3SG6SWxs49RHeuE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I/wZKXfvA5aCPOT6PgBDnPBIoxTmIZ1nyONe801KJntCPwWTpZTyhERCTPS6JgTvOB z1ppew6VCNTTeQITdYJnVpYk3did+9KJzLGUnCpBUmokplZ18sYFp7d9E7ZX0nftXLx9 T/myYYUzgRkAofgUjQA1U0ALXP5WRy9qZ3if4= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.209.10 with SMTP id h10mr12398793ybg.141.1256679902450; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49bf44f10910271325j20580ef3j4fed6fb351c6a37d@mail.gmail.com> References: <49bf44f10910271139s5375a558y69a0170e633b11aa@mail.gmail.com> <49bf44f10910271217v2d00e449qc50010135a3176c9@mail.gmail.com> <49bf44f10910271220h725e823ck6ab59cfbceb8a672@mail.gmail.com> <200910272126.09982.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <49bf44f10910271325j20580ef3j4fed6fb351c6a37d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:45:02 -0700 Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0910271445j2ada4f7dha758cbc16771df46@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 91216138-78c5-4077-918f-15a9e729752e X-Archives-Hash: 5e097e9e22acf25c18c54569620a8a80 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Grant wrote: >>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? >>> >> >>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be >>> >> running on another machine. >>> >> >>> >> Bye... >>> >> >>> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dirk >>> > >>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. =C2=A0I'll add xorg-server to world. >>> > >>> > - Grant >>> >>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? =C2=A0W= hat >>> does it provide? >> >> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls i= n >> everything required to provide a full X server >> >> -- >> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to > emerge for xorg-x11: > > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 =C2=A0USE=3D"= -debug" 42 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debu= g" 74 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-= debug" 97 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 =C2=A088 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug= " 101 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug= " 86 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug" 8= 2 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug"= 106 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug" = 140 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug"= 85 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug" 11= 6 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug"= 127 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debu= g" 73 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug"= 85 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug"= 95 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debu= g" 87 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug -= ipv6" 0 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug" 91= kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-deb= ug" 127 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debu= g" 87 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debu= g" 79 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 =C2=A0USE=3D"-deb= ug" 97 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug" = 76 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug"= 106 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-de= bug" 74 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debu= g" 74 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug" 11= 0 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debu= g" 79 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 =C2=A0USE=3D"-d= ebug" 65 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-d= ebug" 213 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 =C2=A020 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 =C2= =A0USE=3D"X" 70 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1= =C2=A0USE=3D"X -nls" 284 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 = =C2=A0USE=3D"X" 204 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 =C2=A0U= SE=3D"X -nls" 827 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 308 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0U= SE=3D"X -nls" 667 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0US= E=3D"X -nls" 38 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE=3D= "X" 376 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 = =C2=A0USE=3D"X" 181 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 48 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 = =C2=A0USE=3D"X -nls" 209 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 = =C2=A0USE=3D"X" 330 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 =C2= =A0USE=3D"X -nls" 45 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 552 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 =C2=A02,20= 5 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 1,813 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0U= SE=3D"X -nls" 42 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 =C2=A0U= SE=3D"X" 1,457 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X" 563 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 =C2= =A0USE=3D"X -nls" 65 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 =C2= =A0USE=3D"X -nls" 102 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0U= SE=3D"X -nls" 52 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 = =C2=A0USE=3D"X -nls" 133 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 769 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 =C2=A0= USE=3D"X -nls" 1,040 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 499 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 =C2= =A0USE=3D"X -nls" 193 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 201 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 56 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 =C2= =A0USE=3D"X -nls" 77 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 =C2= =A0USE=3D"X" 344 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dp= i-1.0.0 > USE=3D"X -nls" 185 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 = =C2=A0USE=3D"X -nls" 41 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 40 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 =C2=A0USE= =3D"X -nls" 655 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 =C2=A0USE=3D"-debug= " 79 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi= -1.0.0 > USE=3D"X -nls" 150 kB > [ebuild =C2=A0N =C2=A0 =C2=A0] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 =C2=A00 kB > > Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. =C2=A0Does > anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts? > > - Grant > > Just read the names of the apps. They are mostly pretty simple. If one app looks interesting or possibly useful you can emerge it directly, play with it and throw it away if you don't want to keep it around. I don't personally need the fonts although they aren't generally much trouble in terms of updates as they don't change. Anyway, as I said, I only use the full package on one machine and hardly notice the difference. - Mark