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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without
syncing
From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Stroller<stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On 12 Jun 2009, at 15:40, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justin<justin@j-schmitz.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Harry Putnam schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without
>>>> syncing my OS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/
>>
>> also http://packages.gentoo.org/
>>
>> or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest
>
> The problem with this is that it's difficult to determine which packages on
> one's own system have updated. One must check individually for each atom in
> world.
>
>
> Harry:
>
> I'm not sure if it's possible _without_ syncing, but you can `cp -a
> /usr/portage /usr/portage.orig`, sync, `emerge -pv world` and then move the
> original tree back if you want to.
>
> It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync. If
> the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates are
> unimportant.
>
> Stroller.
I've wanted a way to do something like this for a long time. One
problem with the way portage works with ( I guess) rsync or whatever
it uses is that when someone decides to remove a package from portage
that I'm currently using syncing removes it from my system also.
Unfortunately before I do the sync I have no idea it has been removed
so I don't know that it's going to get taken off my system. Once it
does I can go find a copy and put it in a personal overlay but that
requires I do the work after the damage is done. It would be nice if
there was a message ahead of time that told me certain packages were
going to be removed, etc., before it was actually done, but I
understand from previous conversations that syncing doesn't work that
way.
This has come up numerous times for me on older hardware where, for
instance, maybe some on-board graphics chip only works with older ATI
drivers, and that ATI driver only works with older kernels. By the
time sync is done I've lost the code for what my system is running,
and unfortunately there's no messages that this is happening when I'm
doing the sync so maybe I only figure it out a few weeks later and
then have to mess around building an overlay using the attic.
- Mark