From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MF9sl-0002ff-5f for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:45:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DDC7E077E; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60356E077E for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so8757894ywm.46 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:45:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cPagx+2uoTB0wShWI6R0MpwDRYVtu/l4QbC2/KpJV9M=; b=IItqorzTrS7jf4YlAx0Hn/8+fPoBP0b4aJLMf+tErWaZP6C/zbolrronNzoi0Aueex mF06g40ViqOO79syWNhvYVeG4f8q4YdAFFUOhdeaFsmm0AfgoChHXIPN0r/lmXECJMBM +aCjxJCaZ4+dezUvJLqimnXLBjDv/jmDq0/rs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QGkQbKsGSRwfgZ5KvRxK43UYzLK4ShE8kA1KgxOTDPEIcBeBz6O7+rikiWr2Cyo/RR WjYNEiDLvw967xpkXJVLSfBUWGH82fQVax+KCgJ3aTrsR+H+LEESFjusmjAbb0Yp0oCo rc3cL9ytEk4D77F9LaF2qltDpM1o+DWQmXNEw= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.191.15 with SMTP id o15mr7890542ybf.77.1244825128010; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:45:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <88EF37E8-DF4E-4830-8B32-754EC40565EB@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> References: <4A326635.3020303@j-schmitz.net> <58965d8a0906120740t20185896k79ba0a668d47eb59@mail.gmail.com> <88EF37E8-DF4E-4830-8B32-754EC40565EB@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:45:27 -0700 Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0906120945o67b34e39veaad57f1a578d4fa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 60b80a6a-f896-4237-aba4-ed1d89ba9e20 X-Archives-Hash: 057ae7d960d6c696516e5311e198740c On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Stroller wrote: > > On 12 Jun 2009, at 15:40, Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justin wrote: >>> >>> Harry Putnam schrieb: >>>> >>>> Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without >>>> syncing my OS? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/ >> >> also http://packages.gentoo.org/ >> >> or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest > > The problem with this is that it's difficult to determine which packages on > one's own system have updated. One must check individually for each atom in > world. > > > Harry: > > I'm not sure if it's possible _without_ syncing, but you can `cp -a > /usr/portage /usr/portage.orig`, sync, `emerge -pv world` and then move the > original tree back if you want to. > > It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync. If > the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates are > unimportant. > > Stroller. I've wanted a way to do something like this for a long time. One problem with the way portage works with ( I guess) rsync or whatever it uses is that when someone decides to remove a package from portage that I'm currently using syncing removes it from my system also. Unfortunately before I do the sync I have no idea it has been removed so I don't know that it's going to get taken off my system. Once it does I can go find a copy and put it in a personal overlay but that requires I do the work after the damage is done. It would be nice if there was a message ahead of time that told me certain packages were going to be removed, etc., before it was actually done, but I understand from previous conversations that syncing doesn't work that way. This has come up numerous times for me on older hardware where, for instance, maybe some on-board graphics chip only works with older ATI drivers, and that ATI driver only works with older kernels. By the time sync is done I've lost the code for what my system is running, and unfortunately there's no messages that this is happening when I'm doing the sync so maybe I only figure it out a few weeks later and then have to mess around building an overlay using the attic. - Mark