[gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Alan McKinnon]

Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4 (incompatible 
and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but meanwhile I need 
to get emerge world to run and complete.

To decide what to mask and what to leave, I need to discover what these 
packages actually do and what the effect will be if I unmask stuff. I *could* 
experiment, but will probably overlook many important things. As an assist to 
figuring this out and deciding, can someone tell me what pykde4 and PyQt4 
actually do and how these packages use them:

alan@nazgul ~/downloads/kernel $ equery depends pykde4
 * Searching for pykde4 ...
kde-base/marble-4.2.4 (python ? >=kde-base/pykde4-4.2.4:4.2[kdeprefix=])
kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.2.4 (python ? >=kde-
base/pykde4-4.2.4:4.2[kdeprefix=])

alan@nazgul ~/downloads/kernel $ equery depends PyQt4
 * Searching for PyQt4 ...
dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.3.2-r1 (qt4 ? >=dev-python/PyQt4-4.4)
kde-base/marble-4.2.4 (python ? >=dev-python/PyQt4-4.4.4-r1[X,svg])
kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.2.4 (python ? >=dev-python/PyQt4-4.4.0[X])
kde-base/pykde4-4.2.4 (>=dev-python/PyQt4-4.4.4-
r1[dbus,qt3support,svg,webkit,X])
media-sound/picard-0.11 (dev-python/PyQt4[X])
net-print/hplip-3.9.4b (!minimal & qt4 & !qt3 ? dev-python/PyQt4[X])

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Alan McKinnon<alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4 (incompatible
> and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but meanwhile I need
> to get emerge world to run and complete.

I had to add these 4 packages to my /etc/portage/package.mask to get
emerge to proceed:

=dev-python/PyQt4-4.5
=dev-python/PyQt-3.18
=dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.4
=x11-libs/qscintilla-2.4

I'll try unmasking them in a few days to see if the deps have been sorted out.

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:38:25 Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Alan McKinnon<alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4
> > (incompatible and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but
> > meanwhile I need to get emerge world to run and complete.
>
> I had to add these 4 packages to my /etc/portage/package.mask to get
> emerge to proceed:
>
> =dev-python/PyQt4-4.5
> =dev-python/PyQt-3.18
> =dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.4
> =x11-libs/qscintilla-2.4
>
> I'll try unmasking them in a few days to see if the deps have been sorted
> out.

I'd pretty much come to the same conclusion - couldn't figure out what the 
packages did and didn't feel like experimenting. Easier to keep things as is 
and wait for pykde4-4.3

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Alan McKinnon<alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:38:25 Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Alan McKinnon<alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4
>> > (incompatible and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but
>> > meanwhile I need to get emerge world to run and complete.
>>
>> I had to add these 4 packages to my /etc/portage/package.mask to get
>> emerge to proceed:
>>
>> =dev-python/PyQt4-4.5
>> =dev-python/PyQt-3.18
>> =dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.4
>> =x11-libs/qscintilla-2.4
>>
>> I'll try unmasking them in a few days to see if the deps have been sorted
>> out.
>
> I'd pretty much come to the same conclusion - couldn't figure out what the
> packages did and didn't feel like experimenting. Easier to keep things as is
> and wait for pykde4-4.3
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Take a look at emerge -DuN world and see if they are still blocked. I
had a problem like this yesterday on my AMD64 machine. Wasn't able to
do emerge -DuN @system without lots of blockage problems but was able
to do emerge -DuN @world with none...

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 10 June 2009 22:57:38 Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Alan McKinnon<alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:38:25 Paul Hartman wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Alan McKinnon<alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> > Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4
> >> > (incompatible and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this,
> >> > but meanwhile I need to get emerge world to run and complete.
> >>
> >> I had to add these 4 packages to my /etc/portage/package.mask to get
> >> emerge to proceed:
> >>
> >> =dev-python/PyQt4-4.5
> >> =dev-python/PyQt-3.18
> >> =dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.4
> >> =x11-libs/qscintilla-2.4
> >>
> >> I'll try unmasking them in a few days to see if the deps have been
> >> sorted out.
> >
> > I'd pretty much come to the same conclusion - couldn't figure out what
> > the packages did and didn't feel like experimenting. Easier to keep
> > things as is and wait for pykde4-4.3
> >
> > --
> > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
> Take a look at emerge -DuN world and see if they are still blocked. I
> had a problem like this yesterday on my AMD64 machine. Wasn't able to
> do emerge -DuN @system without lots of blockage problems but was able
> to do emerge -DuN @world with none...

It's emerge -uND world that shows the problem. I'll resync tomorrow and try 
again - my mirror runs about 12 hours behind gentoo.org


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4
> (incompatible and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but
> meanwhile I need to get emerge world to run and complete.
>
> To decide what to mask and what to leave, I need to discover what these
> packages actually do and what the effect will be if I unmask stuff. I
> *could* experiment, but will probably overlook many important things. As an
> assist to figuring this out and deciding, can someone tell me what pykde4
> and PyQt4 actually do and how these packages use them:
>
> alan@nazgul ~/downloads/kernel $ equery depends pykde4
>  * Searching for pykde4 ...
> kde-base/marble-4.2.4 (python ? >=kde-base/pykde4-4.2.4:4.2[kdeprefix=])
> kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.2.4 (python ? >=kde-
> base/pykde4-4.2.4:4.2[kdeprefix=])
>
> alan@nazgul ~/downloads/kernel $ equery depends PyQt4
>  * Searching for PyQt4 ...
> dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.3.2-r1 (qt4 ? >=dev-python/PyQt4-4.4)
> kde-base/marble-4.2.4 (python ? >=dev-python/PyQt4-4.4.4-r1[X,svg])
> kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.2.4 (python ? >=dev-python/PyQt4-4.4.0[X])
> kde-base/pykde4-4.2.4 (>=dev-python/PyQt4-4.4.4-
> r1[dbus,qt3support,svg,webkit,X])
> media-sound/picard-0.11 (dev-python/PyQt4[X])
> net-print/hplip-3.9.4b (!minimal & qt4 & !qt3 ? dev-python/PyQt4[X])


http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org/?p=389

especially the bug linked to. 

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 10 June 2009 22:22:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

>
> http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org/?p=389
>
> especially the bug linked to.

Thanks. I read that blog a bit earlier but there isn't enough info for me to 
reach a decision about what to dump and what to keep. I've since installed 
blockers to prevent these upgrades and am waiting for compatible versions to 
hit the portage tree

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

[gentoo-user] Re: PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 06/10/2009 10:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4 (incompatible
> and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but meanwhile I need
> to get emerge world to run and complete.
>
> To decide what to mask and what to leave, I need to discover what these
> packages actually do and what the effect will be if I unmask stuff. I *could*
> experiment, but will probably overlook many important things. As an assist to
> figuring this out and deciding, can someone tell me what pykde4 and PyQt4
> actually do and how these packages use them.

I recommend putting "-python" in your make.conf followed by "emerge 
-auDN world" and then a depclean along with revdev-rebuild.  This should 
get rid of Python bindings.  Usually, when you're not sure if you need 
them, you don't need them.  PyQt and PyKDE are big packages and not 
worth having to just lying around.

[gentoo-user] Re: PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 06/11/2009 06:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> I recommend putting "-python" in your make.conf followed by "emerge
> -auDN world" and then a depclean along with revdev-rebuild.

You might have to enable python in a few packages after that though and 
disable it in others.  In my case:

   echo "dev-libs/libxml2 python" >> /etc/portage/package.use

Just follow the messages that tell you to enable the python USE flag in 
specific packages.  It's much cleaner to enable it only in packages that 
actually need it rather than globally (which drags along PyQt and PyKDE.)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 11 June 2009 05:18:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 06/11/2009 06:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > I recommend putting "-python" in your make.conf followed by "emerge
> > -auDN world" and then a depclean along with revdev-rebuild.
>
> You might have to enable python in a few packages after that though and
> disable it in others.  In my case:
>
>    echo "dev-libs/libxml2 python" >> /etc/portage/package.use
>
> Just follow the messages that tell you to enable the python USE flag in
> specific packages.  It's much cleaner to enable it only in packages that
> actually need it rather than globally (which drags along PyQt and PyKDE.)

So is it more or less correct to say that USE=python gives you python plugins 
for most packages? There could be other uses of course, but is that the most 
common?


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

[gentoo-user] Re: PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 06/11/2009 10:39 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thursday 11 June 2009 05:18:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> On 06/11/2009 06:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> I recommend putting "-python" in your make.conf followed by "emerge
>>> -auDN world" and then a depclean along with revdev-rebuild.
>> You might have to enable python in a few packages after that though and
>> disable it in others.  In my case:
>>
>>     echo "dev-libs/libxml2 python">>  /etc/portage/package.use
>>
>> Just follow the messages that tell you to enable the python USE flag in
>> specific packages.  It's much cleaner to enable it only in packages that
>> actually need it rather than globally (which drags along PyQt and PyKDE.)
>
> So is it more or less correct to say that USE=python gives you python plugins
> for most packages? There could be other uses of course, but is that the most
> common?

The flag itself is a global one and says "Adds support/bindings for the 
Python language."  That can mean a lot of things.  Usually it's Python 
bindings.  And also usually, if you're not sure what it does, you don't 
need it.  If you enable something (like some cool looking plugin or 
added functionality) that would require enabling the python flag, 
portage will tell you so when you try to emerge.  For example:

   !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
   !!! pulled into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
   [...]
   New USE for 'dev-libs/libxml2:2' are incorrectly set. In order to
   solve this, adjust USE to satisfy '>=dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.12[python]'.

Of course, the ebuild has to support this too, otherwise you will get a 
compilation error when emerge goes ahead to tries to build the package.

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Alan McKinnon<alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4 (incompatible
> and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but meanwhile I need
> to get emerge world to run and complete.

It looks like this is all sorted out in the latest portage tree, as
pykde has been updated.