From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M54Ci-0005Kq-1p for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 20:40:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0ED0E0561; Fri, 15 May 2009 20:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.250]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DD2E0561 for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 20:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so1236673rvf.46 for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:39:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TPORAjUf9fdPkRLSxNpnk1YpSJmops0nr74g2VvzIeA=; b=pwG/jooK2UUHtP0pZkIBkmIcmmISww4rMKVKoYjQgN+h6Oku/5cq8028cq6daEB6eB dPkL+2Ji2Q+ael/xWYVJfWQruIrCs6Hb17dqVyjdA8nYvVToejnyWgmMYVH8PtdOxxap r0yD4A6kwN5shqLQRCLWdwN7j46ec7YuiYYOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TMA3iJw1R/HGLrtbAmpGDRocMEGtpXWlwreiOg4r2erEWzpjbZ4Ra4DcSqnPSDM9zg +Pzq5DsjqwDSrqt6AU1kXaRF6RpLtdxZE8UPBe25VOUzv4j/9Gip8//YNACUIrvfMZR4 W9lj+mMcdREWGcI0EAiYGjdsdAoOS5h6LY/UA= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr1215938wfb.200.1242419969226; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:39:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200905152224.25192.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> References: <200904070939.57495.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <200905151857.57941.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4A0DCB17.30408@coolmail.se> <200905152224.25192.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:39:29 -0700 Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0905151339j43a8e2d6lb620037a8e4b0d26@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 0eac09ec-2920-4c93-8ef2-148ca1e92f3f X-Archives-Hash: 659cb40c537b830dc035ba39740e7057 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 15 Mai 2009, pk wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > DeviceKit isn't even in portage yet and not many packages support it. I >> > don't even know if the devs will change and improve the configs much, if >> > at all. The problem with hal is that it's code base is a mess, and it's >> > design is a mish- mash of stuff throwwn together. At least, that's what >> > the lead hal dev says >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DeviceKit#Dependencies >> >> I haven't looked into this in any depth but it seems like Devicekit will >> not be an improvement (looks like it brings in the "kitchen sink" in >> dependencies - I'm also "allergic" to gnome)... > > in my opinion a 'solution' that is based on the worst desktop (gnome) is the > worst possible 'solution'. What about kde users? what about xfce? fluxbox? > enlightenment users? > > Fedora screws everybody over. Like always. > Now that seems a bit strong. Presumably they aren't screwing over Fedora 11 Gnome users. (Draw Venn diagram now to look for small portion...) I don't disagree with you but it would seem that they have to start somewhere... Cheers, Mark