From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L3sZf-00035D-FL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:30:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 788A5E04EF; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.250]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B8AE04EF for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so1518469rvf.46 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:30:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=t8jcTxUFb4dkXDIeH7WaiUk02UCvteGdyKoF0xXVzOo=; b=Al2exLrnkpSfuJMPXzQGvrvY2oHosw+E/PAZWN6z2ZhhGR7X+/6IOnJdDCSz5vk9H8 ZPGB4kkdXhxv7GA8O8n3fFb3Yi7LnqyNmPXDWo5J0MJVP08iX4Kw+tdnViL3ULNnG1Tl PYa9IZnbiM0zE5uDG+UF6azvxqsmicLM6yqe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=QTHooKB8+bwlvUU87ehPACPNqt3TVfD9lv2UJ3Tax2lH52aa+oNPKRo20dLIO84J7Z XExXrnIN4vsnTOrAPQEWNtukGDZmYaLCXLn93VQF1gXbsyQ/K4YE6O1NDwYF9/Ik9G4m ZAr018lSCCFkdyRl0clvGstkyjza8uVyR40Uk= Received: by 10.142.48.14 with SMTP id v14mr771339wfv.184.1227360655959; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.217.2 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:30:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0811220530s2f59995en81382ae16838dd07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:30:55 -0800 From: "Mark Knecht" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Deny flash to a specific user? In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5bdc1c8b0811181729v5e92cc0fh701faab1b02bd869@mail.gmail.com> <1227067612.16932.5.camel@blackwidow.nbk> <28C5CD56-5A44-4F6A-85CC-C28CC2C2F0A3@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <20081119150757.GD7022@beastie.linwin> <20081121162218.GA19595@mirja.bruns> <5bdc1c8b0811210834t2aeea7f9s5c13ecf7e5b8e294@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: befcc72e-ef77-482c-9ec1-1d882e85f65f X-Archives-Hash: 84d1b46e93f1b95388e0e30bf81cb96b Hey Brett, I already point my router at these guys. Is there something more I could be doing? I've decided that for the most part this is probably a futile undertaking. It turns out some of his online classes are using Flash and certainly a lot of video media as port of how they teach. With that in mind it's pretty difficult for me to block the technologies themselves as a 'policy' decision. That leaves me with trying to block web sites which turns me real-time policeman which I'm unwilling to do so I've let him know that I'm watching how he uses the machines. It hasn't worked in the past though... Cheers, Mark On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Brett Freer wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Why don't you try www.opendns.com? > > Kind regards > > Brett > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 22 November 2008 3:35 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Deny flash to a specific user? > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:22 AM, wrote: >> Michael [19.Nov.2008 16:07]: >> >>> On 10:05 Wed 19 Nov , Qian Qiao wrote: >>> ... >>>> >>>> In that case, isn't putting >>>> >>>> 127.0.0.1 ADDRESSES_TO_BE_BLOCKED >>>> >>>> into /etc/hosts easier? >>>> >>>> Or just set up a proxy. >>> >>> No, perhaps not, considering the fact that there are so many sites >>> with pron. Maintaining such a massive hosts file is a disaster and >>> worse still the solution is not fullproof. But then, FWIW such >>> problems seldom have foolproof solutions. >> >> Well, at least there is "mvps" [1] with a nice host-file, blocking >> mostly ads, banners etc., which I use myself without much trouble. >> While searching for a list of porn-sites to add to that list, I >> stumbled upon BadHosts [2], which includes several hosts-files, one of > >> them entirely for porn-sites. >> >> The sites listed there might get you started, but as noted by Qian >> Qiao before, that list will never be complete or up-to-date. Besides, >> using an anonymizer to reach one of those sites will get you there >> anyway. You would have to block those, too. >> >> My opinion: If children are to be "protected" from that kind of >> content, seting up a public computer in a livingroom might be a better > >> way (in conjunction with a host-file maybe for those nasty ads). But >> as soon as one starts blocking sites, the question will be where to > stop. >> >> >> JP > > Thanks to all that have answered. I appreciate the responses greatly. > > Indeed the question was based around what to do with a kid that's not > using his computer time appropriately. It has nothing to do with > 'protecting' him via censoring or anything like that. It was more a > matter of should he be playing Flash games or playing online videos of > Star Craft games when he has homework to be doing. After thinking about > it the decision in the end was to do nothing technical. Nothing > technical is going to fix this problem other than him growing up a bit. > > Thanks again, > Mark > > >