From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-85723-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Kvbtp-0000UC-Ce for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:05:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36DF1E0309; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.152]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165FAE0309 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so330998yxp.46 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:05:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wwCcovQXxZRy4RVF6HDPH6URnAmR+nCUFuqcag5smhs=; b=bfJF2spcvpvuJlV19ZPoKRaL77dUPo8ppb/t4a6tkL8jU2liAed4GAK3go+UgnJqnZ voh4lwoIlm9DqyV+aa4W5JGbAf6P79Wbbly8QIYMdZaAZJWouBddiFBi2Mtiyg936Poj ACFklz+NXt69+1AaAIdSnJmdhqolMVjncfmPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ZYyc9XJC440hx45FXKFlVTGlM+CSxVN5i1XsCLgTg95LCLNw9Jtwl1IBqOA3eZeq9c qasvpZ9r3XMVrJAGvAPOlDhkBs0VcBMUgpwDYMPWN8G5FwWlEW4R6vYT/5Adzx3vHTaL zfnVz8c1d/0NKkl459HnRep12Cdxm2IWMCP/A= Received: by 10.142.232.20 with SMTP id e20mr4860239wfh.109.1225389935013; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.215.15 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0810301105u1f7601b2m3d48013612bb9ca3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:05:34 -0700 From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix In-Reply-To: <20081030172419.48c66bc7@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5bdc1c8b0810281934y6b4370al84f174a1d11f6b87@mail.gmail.com> <047601c93970$26c2f0c0$a500a8c0@quan> <yu9iqrcgknf.fsf@nyu.edu> <20081029162433.GY18532@edespot.com> <5bdc1c8b0810291100y8ceb38ey3fb3dfc999a5c168@mail.gmail.com> <20081029204913.53c484ff@digimed.co.uk> <20081030054630.GC7758@revolver> <20081030172419.48c66bc7@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> X-Archives-Salt: 1f218ea4-b899-4e2b-80d7-f93b309b5bcd X-Archives-Hash: ff9e07aa6243d1d3700ab732082fd582 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:46:30 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote: > >> > It's a bit late now, but installing a second distro, or a bare stage 3 >> > gentoo, as a dual boot so you can still access the machoine if it >> > breaks. As an alternative, send the user a GRML CD and get them to >> > boot that if things go wrong. > >> There is no need to drive there or to send a cd. Even with no com_err >> and no wget, you can still ssh into the machine, so scp should work too. > > On this occasion, yes. But as a general CYA policy, as long as the user > is capable of making a selection from a boot menu, a fallback distro > would be useful in this situation. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick Yes, it would be helpful. In my case it would need to be configured for full ssh/noip support, and probably shouldn't be Gentoo based as this selection wouldn't likely get updated very often and the now far more restrictive policies on how often Gentoo has to be updated probably aren't appropriate for this task. None the less maybe a good thing for me to do would be to do an install of something like this remotely, test it, and then deal with system updates later. Also, as long as ssh isn't harmed I can pretty much scp any package to the machine and get it working again, albeit with some extra work. Normally I already do a --fetchonly any time I'm planning on an emerge -DuN world but if I forgot usually you can still make it work somehow. Take care, Mark