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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:07 -0700
From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:00:41 -0700
> "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Jamie Dobbs
> > <jamie.dobbs@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> > > I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu
> > > but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the
> > > level of customization that I can do with it.
> >
> > Well then, welcome back.
> >
> > <SNIP>
> > > Also I'm not running at Athlon X2 system, ifs there any _real_
> > > advantage to running AMD64 or should I still to x86?
> >
> > I run an amd64 as my desktop system. It' started as my 3rd machine so
> > at the time it was 64-bit for fun. today I just live with it. There
> > are some limitations on the 64-bit platform with web-based media, but
> > beyond that I find 32 and 64-bit machines to be pretty similar in
> > performance. I run old windows games under Wine on 64-bit and they
> > work OK. I think Flash and Java have been the two larger issues for me
> > over time. A few win32codec issues also. However if I wanted to get
> > around those I could probably do something in a chroot but I'm not
> > that motivated.
> >
> > If I was building a desktop machine today I wouldn't build 64-bit. I
> > see no advantage and a few disadvantages, but either way you go you'll
> > probably be fine.
>
> I use a 64 bit myself and have done so ever since I got tired of
> running 32bit and wasting half my CPU. I recommend running a 32bit
> firefox, but other than that, there's no real problems here. Wine
> seems to run a little better in 64 bit than I've seen it perform on
> other systems but it's hard to be sure.
>
> Anyhow, just wanted to say I switched from 64 to 32 originally, as Mark
> suggested, and switched back very quickly. I don't know if the speed
> really changed, but it made me feel better about myself.
>
It's an interesting question and one I've not tried to test. Does an
AMD64 machine running a 32-bit or 64-bit install run faster or slower
with one or the other. For all of my everyday work - Gnome, Firefox,
web browsing, email, MythTV, etc., it's been my assumption that there
wouldn't be any noticeble difference. I run 64-bit but assume I'd run
at more or less the same speed if I ran 32-bit. I may be wrong. Anyone
have any measured data? Same machine, two installs?
I should see about 1) getting my chroot working again and then 2)
getting it to boot and doing a check.
Thanks,
Mark
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