From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JaFEK-00009D-5X for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:06:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66654E05EC; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FB4E05EC for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so4084162wfd.10 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pdzVHU2T9wnKIUcjJbTqPE9Wd4QQunqbkJ+STvnb2UE=; b=MU0Y7bJc66Vl/ruZ4vwPw3g8WiCzzKIM9rss6rGtNZ3u9uoWdVLelCkyDyZnCFFplaxG2iecCZxuopSnPRoNGARW97/QuntYqj2YPAr8Bl33LIofnVBLwgm/TWFR/5aanSp/xnZOAQB1MZWn4eGTMdR2cYi+AbC9lIKlCmzkBic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SSimHBWiUCjOgBelmNYLViL5qumx5E/nD+DQJtsUqwFZX5nM1zOj6GBxDQlqWw8EuRy4DwC6z0xokPehqpO+EKjooB788tGBuUF+swHeUZZcBpiI63w+/hTJsCPv4dMr5IDJjDagPaHSbUAn06AmyVtxfKoDBf5xNE3s+zdZgZ8= Received: by 10.142.241.10 with SMTP id o10mr5315113wfh.155.1205521568011; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.234.21 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0803141206o7a9acbaau149e392574fb2747@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:07 -0700 From: "Mark Knecht" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo In-Reply-To: <20080314132348.3bcee472@pascal.spore.ath.cx> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47D6333E.9020003@ihug.co.nz> <5bdc1c8b0803111000g118efcd8tb3bc98d1865e5f75@mail.gmail.com> <20080314132348.3bcee472@pascal.spore.ath.cx> X-Archives-Salt: 004c3603-0c0b-4046-a841-6a49baf14504 X-Archives-Hash: e895377de15605e6c33b46850b462f25 On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dan Farrell wrote: > On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:00:41 -0700 > "Mark Knecht" wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Jamie Dobbs > > wrote: > > > I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu > > > but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the > > > level of customization that I can do with it. > > > > Well then, welcome back. > > > > > > > Also I'm not running at Athlon X2 system, ifs there any _real_ > > > advantage to running AMD64 or should I still to x86? > > > > I run an amd64 as my desktop system. It' started as my 3rd machine so > > at the time it was 64-bit for fun. today I just live with it. There > > are some limitations on the 64-bit platform with web-based media, but > > beyond that I find 32 and 64-bit machines to be pretty similar in > > performance. I run old windows games under Wine on 64-bit and they > > work OK. I think Flash and Java have been the two larger issues for me > > over time. A few win32codec issues also. However if I wanted to get > > around those I could probably do something in a chroot but I'm not > > that motivated. > > > > If I was building a desktop machine today I wouldn't build 64-bit. I > > see no advantage and a few disadvantages, but either way you go you'll > > probably be fine. > > I use a 64 bit myself and have done so ever since I got tired of > running 32bit and wasting half my CPU. I recommend running a 32bit > firefox, but other than that, there's no real problems here. Wine > seems to run a little better in 64 bit than I've seen it perform on > other systems but it's hard to be sure. > > Anyhow, just wanted to say I switched from 64 to 32 originally, as Mark > suggested, and switched back very quickly. I don't know if the speed > really changed, but it made me feel better about myself. > It's an interesting question and one I've not tried to test. Does an AMD64 machine running a 32-bit or 64-bit install run faster or slower with one or the other. For all of my everyday work - Gnome, Firefox, web browsing, email, MythTV, etc., it's been my assumption that there wouldn't be any noticeble difference. I run 64-bit but assume I'd run at more or less the same speed if I ran 32-bit. I may be wrong. Anyone have any measured data? Same machine, two installs? I should see about 1) getting my chroot working again and then 2) getting it to boot and doing a check. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list