From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:12:58 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0801151412g31257d0ftc735aa6d294de7e0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801152248.54895.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
On Jan 15, 2008 12:48 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Eric Martin wrote:
> > > Anybody that feels they *need* or *must have* an official Gentoo
> > > installer is probably the wrong target market and should be
> > > referred to other distros that will suit their needs better. This
> > > is not a troll or an elitist statement, it's just recognizing what
> > > gentoo is and what it isn't - it's not a distro suitable for
> > > someone to whom chroot isn't yet second nature.
> > >
> >
> > I don't think it's an elitist statement, I agree in thinking that we
> > shouldn't cater to the lcd. There are plenty of distros out there
> > that work just fine and the greatest thing about FOSS is choice. If
> > all of the options are the same there's no point. Again though, I
> > have to disagree with the point that it's not for somebody whom
> > chroot isn't yet second nature: I learned chroot through the install.
> > I've tried playing around with Fedora / Ubunttu but I keep going
> > back to Gentoo; it's my favorite distro.
>
> I know my statement about chroot looks like it should be taken
> literally, but it wasn't meant that way. Read it more as illustrative,
> that the potential user should be reasonably familiar with the more
> unusual commands in *nix systems - chroot, grep, the idea of pipes and
> redirection and many many more. After all if they are going to be using
> these tools, they should know something about them.
>
Or the user could be like me - no experience with any of these
commands but a moderate interest in learning. I hope this users list
will continue to be supportive of folks like me. I was pointed to
Gentoo 7 years ago by a very experienced Linux sys admin at a start up
I was working at in Silicon Valley. Primarily through the help of
this list I managed to get my first machine working in a few days and
today have probably built 20 Gentoo machines. My longest lived, used
my my dad who will be 80 this year, has now been running over 5 years.
I couldn't have done it without the folks on this list.
Grant you, I get that I'm not the target market, but I am someone who
has benefited greatly from Gentoo and the generosity of the folks on
this list. I hope it will continue for others that follow over the
years to come.
Thanks,
Mark
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2008-01-11 8:27 [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11 8:37 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 8:58 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-11 9:12 ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11 9:22 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14 2:12 ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 22:33 ` Walter Dnes
2008-01-11 9:35 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:24 ` [gentoo-user] Install CD (was: Is GWN dead?) Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11 9:38 ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11 9:50 ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:07 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 10:19 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 10:38 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:17 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 13:35 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 14:14 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:18 ` Dale
2008-01-12 0:16 ` [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?) Hal Martin
2008-01-12 0:25 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 10:16 ` Mick
2008-01-12 11:33 ` Dale
2008-01-12 11:42 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-12 11:59 ` Mick
2008-01-12 13:26 ` Dale
2008-01-12 14:38 ` Mick
2008-01-11 13:48 ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 14:02 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-17 7:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17 9:09 ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:45 ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-11 13:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 13:58 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-17 7:33 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17 8:44 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-18 7:36 ` Thufir
2008-01-11 10:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 10:30 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:50 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 11:30 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-17 7:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-12 19:59 ` James
2008-01-12 20:04 ` Kenneth Prugh
2008-01-12 20:20 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 21:12 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-17 7:27 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 9:57 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 19:09 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 19:19 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-12 20:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 0:36 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 8:39 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 11:30 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 15:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:39 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 22:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Hal Martin
2008-01-11 22:35 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 0:25 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:43 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:02 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:29 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 19:08 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 22:31 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 22:52 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 2:29 ` b.n.
2008-01-12 2:27 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-12 11:50 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-15 19:20 ` Eric Martin
2008-01-15 19:48 ` [gentoo-user] gentoo>=sabayon+genkernel Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-15 20:48 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15 22:12 ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2008-01-12 20:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 11:41 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was " Philip Webb
2008-01-11 13:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 10:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-11 12:15 ` [gentoo-user] " David Relson
2008-01-11 13:25 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:09 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 14:33 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-17 7:19 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 8:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-17 9:14 ` Dale
2008-01-18 7:41 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 10:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-18 7:43 ` Thufir
2008-01-18 8:25 ` [gentoo-user] q: how to make gentoo site sync for greek users Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-18 18:12 ` Mick
2008-01-18 14:04 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-18 18:46 ` Thufir
2008-01-18 19:06 ` Lowe Schmidt
2008-01-20 8:38 ` Thufir
2008-01-11 14:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 15:54 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-11 19:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 16:34 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:38 ` YoYo Siska
2008-01-11 16:36 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-12 19:18 ` David Relson
2008-01-12 21:16 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-13 8:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 11:47 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 12:35 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 12:56 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:32 ` Dale
2008-01-13 14:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 15:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:35 ` Dale
2008-01-13 16:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:24 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-14 12:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 21:35 ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-14 0:19 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 10:07 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 16:54 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 16:53 ` Galevsky
2008-01-17 7:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 15:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 15:41 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:58 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-14 5:16 ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-14 11:24 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:01 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 16:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 20:52 ` James
2008-01-12 21:29 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 8:56 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 9:08 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 10:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 20:44 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 11:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:46 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 20:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:28 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-13 20:51 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 10:23 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-01-14 18:47 ` Benno Schulenberg
2008-01-14 21:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 9:06 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 12:06 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 14:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 14:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 16:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 16:46 ` Ken Gypen
2008-01-13 18:03 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 18:22 ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:03 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 19:26 ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:15 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 19:26 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:09 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-14 0:27 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 7:22 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-14 9:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 9:39 ` Cocoy Dayao
2008-01-14 10:17 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:09 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:36 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 19:20 ` [gentoo-user] Re: " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:24 ` Neil Bothwick
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