From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDnvj-0001Bx-Qr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:30:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63E1EE0785; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F733E06D5 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so2664435wah.10 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:29:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/IO0LZ2+E9KZdTEb06DBkLzy+Sqqjp6PUOMF69nUjd4=; b=xUa9Pcjc2oV+j7USuy5mvixX8tv/psCrp3v9xDVWYUjCgWRU7RjPwO5EN2jyPZYGaqKVNlIuHyG5yQ0bU2tMTqimzdunzhYFrktFRAwF7MxSfCegpI5SFMluXc6DWq7qJWGJMRMqqLjJGOGiBwfEr0dwxsTeuo3GdWN6pKRdR0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QJ/1VEzuoZeRnrLooaUjs5deKSmErOLBBcKvoiOxIB6jhhYGZtFvpNce+PComhnr4JPtQrgZm0Ppd6EiOsnHlJtM/izxv9BtA0PrF02/KxvspBJZQJeSTLQI4pqLghsW3ngiR4kUJQmiSH4nDO1QxagAcQaKNDgN3O+19QcdBKI= Received: by 10.142.104.9 with SMTP id b9mr2147690wfc.48.1200173390171; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:29:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.203.14 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:29:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0801121329l154b4d00h1ddf2ef7dac25542@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:29:50 -0800 From: "Mark Knecht" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <6142e6140801110037p7d5167c5y619b318ba1bf652e@mail.gmail.com> <1200041896.10339.13.camel@localhost> <20080111091237.GB12107@localhost> <1343558.gq7T5pozvP@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> X-Archives-Salt: 19ab1cef-7408-4d8d-b5dd-be290ce2fa35 X-Archives-Hash: 264f6b0977ff167ce418eb71271427bc On Jan 12, 2008 12:52 PM, James wrote: > Michael Schmarck habmalnefrage.de> writes: > > > > Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install Gentoo. I > > also don't quite understand, why anyone would need such a beast. > > Folks new to gentoo, would find it suspicious, for a distro not to have > it's own install..... Other forks of Gentoo have their install methods. > > So yes, drop the (graphical) liveCD 0ption and create installation > method(s) that begin simple (therefore easy to maintain and update) > and ... I haven't followed this whole thread but isn't this idea EXACTLY what the Gentoo install process was 6-7 years ago? It's how I got started and it worked great for me. A simple boot CD, a text console, and then start copying tar files to get up to date stuff to work with. The few times I've done an install using newer install CDs I've switched to a text console, started ssh, and logged in from another machine where I Can copy/paste the install commands from a browser into my ssh terminal. Works great every time for me. In the old days there were folks who wanted to do stage 1 or stage 2 installs. I never did one. Stage 3 always worked great for me. For the record I am one of the newbie types that I think someone mentioned as getting lucky and getting it right. That said, after 6-7 years of using Gentoo, I'm still a newbie. I will be forever. I don't want to dig into any Linux distro as much as I want to use it. I'm not a sys admin, except for the 6 Gentoo machines at home. I work for myself and don't deal with offices but I Was never a sys admin and I don't program in any language and I Still manage to make Gentoo work for me. The power of Gentoo, for me, is the ease and quality of the install process. I use a LOT of non-stable, under development audio recording packages. I really appreciate how well I can do this on Gentoo. I hope the Gentoo devs can get back to the roots of this distro. Rock solid install. Rock solid operation. High availability of interesting software either through portage directly or through overlays like proaudio. Just my 2 cents and no matter what nothing in this email should ever be construed as anything except the greatest respect and reverence for those who make this disrto run. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list