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From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:15:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0707081115j6a11aab2we4321296ff7c5c2d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49bf44f10707080948v51af712cscf71841b2fbbf6ab@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/8/07, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The problem is if you focus on usability for newbies, you'll focus
> > less on features and customization, or you'll have to find a way to
> > hide this customizability because customization confuses newbies, and
> > spending time dancing around the lesser populace is time wasted on
> > doing practical stuff ( While I'll admit theres got to be a half-way,
> > or gentoo will never get any fresh blood, but I'd prefer to entice
> > fresh blood from people who have some potential to improve the distro
>
> Great post Kent.  I'd love to see more features to attract unskilled
> users, but I'd hate to have that slow down the development of features
> that I would actually use.
>
> The main camps we seem to be divided into are:
>
> 1. we don't want unskilled users
>
> and:
>
> 2. we do want unskilled users
>
> and most align with #1.  It will be interesting to see how it turns
> out.  I still think there is a huge long-term benefit to a large user
> base, even if many of those users start out unskilled.
>
> - Grant

Personally I don't think it's about Gentoo not wanting 'unskilled'
users, but that said I know I am an unskilled user in many eyes so I
suppose that's my survival instinct kicking in. ;-)

I think a more accurate message is 'Gentoo welcomes all, but as a
potential Gentoo user you must be willing to learn. Gentoo does not
attempt make *anything* 'easy or pretty' in preference to providing
complete control.' Add what you will. that's just a start.

My issues, as a low-end, non-power Gentoo user, is that there are some
applications that I'd absolutely love to run, such as mythfrontend via
a web browser, that continue to be beyond my skill set. I've worked
hours upon hours and failed. I know if I chose a different distro I
could run it out of the box. That done I'd lose portage and lots of
other things I really value far more so I forgo fun stuff to have a
really stable system. It's disappointing I don't have the skills to
make it work but I figure over time I can possibly gain them. It's
something to work toward, right?

- Mark
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-08 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-03 16:07 [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return) Grant
2007-07-03 16:46 ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-03 17:14   ` Grant
2007-07-03 17:40     ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-03 17:41     ` Thierry de Coulon
2007-07-03 17:56       ` Jesús Guerrero
2007-07-03 22:00       ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-03 22:21       ` [gentoo-user] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-07-03 22:39       ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-03 18:13     ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-07-03 17:54 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2007-07-03 18:10 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-03 18:47 ` kashani
2007-07-03 19:36 ` Paul Gibbons
2007-07-04  2:46 ` Edgar Contreras
2007-07-04  6:51 ` Kent Fredric
2007-07-08 16:48   ` Grant
2007-07-08 18:15     ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2007-07-09 14:07       ` Galevsky
2007-07-12  1:06         ` Thufir
2007-07-08 21:02     ` Thufir
2007-07-04  8:27 ` Paul Waring
2007-07-04  8:33 ` Danyelle Gragsone
2007-07-04 12:03   ` Colleen Beamer
     [not found]     ` <20070705001359.GB4927@sympatico.ca>
     [not found]       ` <200707042047.07423.mcbrides9@comcast.net>
2007-07-05  1:44         ` Dale
2007-07-06 17:47         ` kashani
2007-07-07 10:11           ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-07 10:56             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-07 13:57               ` Dan Farrell
2007-07-07 16:29               ` david
2007-07-07 20:38               ` Kent Fredric
2007-07-07 14:12             ` Martin S
2007-07-07 14:16               ` Martin S
2007-07-07 16:53                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-07-08  9:58                   ` Martin S
2007-07-08 16:40           ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
     [not found]   ` <20070705014010.GA26335@waltdnes.org>
2007-07-05  7:10     ` Paul Waring
2007-07-05  8:29       ` Kent Fredric
2007-07-05 13:59       ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-05  8:37     ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-05 11:04       ` David Relson
2007-07-06 10:12     ` [gentoo-user] " Mick
2007-07-04  9:27 ` Guillermo Antonio Amaral Bastidas

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