From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Gx5Yc-0006ci-SU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:48:47 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kBKHkOKJ011790; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:46:24 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBKHghBd025754 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:42:43 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so4216191nfb for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:42:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GXtLWOb1dBk6KihPxNWvxBmWTU584+9nYguUvMX+rt3qvI/VyFfNVqKlunjJgVel8GO7TxL/s+PUE2Nigwm1fWeAN5qDPoaxLB/SQt/hpqr0EJHIWbDDZ1unqNuDo/1oOfRR2tUXqC0HUFzmP8O6D7mp9ktns8iFu74daGa+vxs= Received: by 10.82.120.15 with SMTP id s15mr146875buc.1166636562891; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.106.18 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:42:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0612200942w454754b6qe35f44010cd00fbd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:42:42 -0800 From: "Mark Knecht" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy? In-Reply-To: <3D60AF2712C16D42A38076E52FD6E3D23F0BCA@ukmcrdembx01.rd.astrazeneca.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5bdc1c8b0612200916p118815d3t2c69e08b83d97a98@mail.gmail.com> <3D60AF2712C16D42A38076E52FD6E3D23F0BCA@ukmcrdembx01.rd.astrazeneca.net> X-Archives-Salt: 791be5bc-7715-4239-8b32-35afbad37c8f X-Archives-Hash: 5d23f4bc4dc36811b0087d4224ba1dbf On 12/20/06, Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) wrote: > > I understand that every package is out there in some repository on the > > web. I think Neil has pointed me toward it once or twice at least. The > > problem is for a user type like me, and yes, I'm *purely* a user type, > > it's a bit beyond my skillset today to go get it and build the overlay > > myself. > > Is there, or could there be, a method for giving say 7 days notice for when an ebuild is going to be removed? Or, what about keeping removed ebuilds somewhere on the gentoo website or someplace for say 28 days. So if you want it, you can grab it and put it in an overlay or wherever. > I'm sure this exists already. I don't know where it is but high level users like Neil and others have pointed me at it before. My personal problem was not finding it but moving it to my machine and creating the overlay. I'm not sure of directory structure. I don't know all the files that have to be there and where. I don't know about running digests, etc., and being a user I'm not all that interested in that stuff. My thought was that if I had a directory that looked like portage but held the old ebuilds then nothing gets removed - it just gets moved. I could then moved that directory in this local repository to an overlay and eix/portage would see it again. Anyway, thanks for the interest and the ideas. As for family members not a single one of them, except possibly my son today could even have a chance of setting up a Linux box. My son's first computer was RH when he was 6 or 7. Today's he's 14, runs Gentoo, rips CDs, uses Aqualung & xmms. He *might* get through a RH install but not Gentoo. It's not that Gentoo is so hard. It's that none of them know anything about 'vi' so how could they even edit a config file and give the system an IP address or point it at a name server? (Maybe the graphical installer but I'd not let them try for fear they'd wreck existing Windows installs trying to load it.) Sometimes it's the things experienced people take most for granted that can be the most difficult for new people. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list