[gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent

[gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Dear gentoo-users,
yesterday I recognized a strange problem with my soundcards. I have two 
soundcards in my system. A Soundblaster, ens1371 based, and a Terratec 
DMX6Fire, which uses an ice1712 chip. The Soundblaster is used as the primary 
soundcard, recording from tape or vinyl and stereo playback, the ice1712 one 
is used for 5.1 playback of dvds.
So, the normal situation is as follows:
~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
                      Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 16
 1 [DMX6Fire       ]: ICE1712 - TerraTec DMX6Fire
                      TerraTec DMX6Fire at 0xc400, irq 19

Now, after boot, I _sometimes_ get this one:

~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [DMX6Fire       ]: ICE1712 - TerraTec DMX6Fire
                      TerraTec DMX6Fire at 0xc400, irq 19
 1 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
                      Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 16

which I don't want, because I always have to adjust my applications ;)
After executing /etc/init.d/alsasound restart, things are as expected.
Some more info:
~ $ uname -a
Linux pc 2.6.15-gentoo-r3 #2 Mon Feb 27 22:36:46 CET 2006 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 
64 Processor 3000+ GNU/Linux

 ~ $ cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc5.
Compiled on Apr 12 2006 for kernel 2.6.15-gentoo-r3.

~ $ eix ^udev$
* sys-fs/udev
     Available versions:  068-r1 069 070-r1 071 072 073 077 077-r1 077-r2 
077-r3 077-r4 077-r5 078 079 079-r1 081 081-r1 084 085 086 087 089 089-r1 
089-r2 090
     Installed:           090
     Homepage:            
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html
     Description:         Linux dynamic and persistent device naming support 
(aka userspace devfs)

Found 1 matches

~ $ cat /etc/modules.d/alsa
# Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
# 
$Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,v 
1.1 2003/08/05 21:07:55 johnm Exp $

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371
alias snd-card-1 snd-ice1712
##  OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

options snd-card-1 model=dmx6fire

# Set this to the correct number of cards.

options snd cards_limit=2

I searched bugzilla for sound, alsa and udev, but found nothing useful. Well 
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128601 sounds similar, but it's about 
cdroms and an older version of udev.
Any idea, what's the problem here?

Thanks in advance,
Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Hi again,

Am Mittwoch, 19. April 2006 21:12 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer:
> Dear gentoo-users,
> yesterday I recognized a strange problem with my soundcards. I have two
> soundcards in my system. A Soundblaster, ens1371 based, and a Terratec
> DMX6Fire, which uses an ice1712 chip. The Soundblaster is used as the
> primary soundcard, recording from tape or vinyl and stereo playback, the
> ice1712 one is used for 5.1 playback of dvds.
> So, the normal situation is as follows:
> ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
>                       Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 16
>  1 [DMX6Fire       ]: ICE1712 - TerraTec DMX6Fire
>                       TerraTec DMX6Fire at 0xc400, irq 19
>
> Now, after boot, I _sometimes_ get this one:
>
> ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [DMX6Fire       ]: ICE1712 - TerraTec DMX6Fire
>                       TerraTec DMX6Fire at 0xc400, irq 19
>  1 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
>                       Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 16
>
> which I don't want, because I always have to adjust my applications ;)
> After executing /etc/init.d/alsasound restart, things are as expected.
> Some more info:
> ~ $ uname -a
> Linux pc 2.6.15-gentoo-r3 #2 Mon Feb 27 22:36:46 CET 2006 i686 AMD
> Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ GNU/Linux
>
>  ~ $ cat /proc/asound/version
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc5.
> Compiled on Apr 12 2006 for kernel 2.6.15-gentoo-r3.
>
> ~ $ eix ^udev$
> * sys-fs/udev
>      Available versions:  068-r1 069 070-r1 071 072 073 077 077-r1 077-r2
> 077-r3 077-r4 077-r5 078 079 079-r1 081 081-r1 084 085 086 087 089 089-r1
> 089-r2 090
>      Installed:           090
>      Homepage:
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html
>      Description:         Linux dynamic and persistent device naming
> support (aka userspace devfs)
>
> Found 1 matches
>
> ~ $ cat /etc/modules.d/alsa
> # Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
> #
> $Header:
> /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,
>v 1.1 2003/08/05 21:07:55 johnm Exp $
>
> # ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>
> ##
> ## IMPORTANT:
> ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> ## and then run `update-modules' command.
> ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> ##
> ##  ALSA portion
> alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371
> alias snd-card-1 snd-ice1712
> ##  OSS/Free portion
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> ##
>
> # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> ##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
>
> options snd-card-1 model=dmx6fire
>
> # Set this to the correct number of cards.
>
> options snd cards_limit=2
>
> I searched bugzilla for sound, alsa and udev, but found nothing useful.
> Well http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128601 sounds similar, but it's
> about cdroms and an older version of udev.
> Any idea, what's the problem here?

as an update, I am now using alsa-1.0.11 and the problem persists. Interesting 
thing is, that this only happens on some boots. Is there anybody who can give 
me a hint, where I can start to look? Are some more infos needed? 

Hand,
Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

 Am Samstag, 22. April 2006 01:24 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer:
> Hi again,
> Am Mittwoch, 19. April 2006 21:12 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer:
> > Dear gentoo-users,
> > yesterday I recognized a strange problem with my soundcards. I have two
> > soundcards in my system. A Soundblaster, ens1371 based, and a Terratec
> > DMX6Fire, which uses an ice1712 chip. The Soundblaster is used as the
> > primary soundcard, recording from tape or vinyl and stereo playback, the
> > ice1712 one is used for 5.1 playback of dvds.
> > So, the normal situation is as follows:
> > ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> >  0 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
> >                       Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 16
> >  1 [DMX6Fire       ]: ICE1712 - TerraTec DMX6Fire
> >                       TerraTec DMX6Fire at 0xc400, irq 19
> >
> > Now, after boot, I _sometimes_ get this one:
> >
> > ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> >  0 [DMX6Fire       ]: ICE1712 - TerraTec DMX6Fire
> >                       TerraTec DMX6Fire at 0xc400, irq 19
> >  1 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
> >                       Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 16
> >
> > which I don't want, because I always have to adjust my applications ;)
> > After executing /etc/init.d/alsasound restart, things are as expected.
> > Some more info:
> > ~ $ uname -a
> > Linux pc 2.6.15-gentoo-r3 #2 Mon Feb 27 22:36:46 CET 2006 i686 AMD
> > Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ GNU/Linux
> >
> >  ~ $ cat /proc/asound/version
> > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc5.
> > Compiled on Apr 12 2006 for kernel 2.6.15-gentoo-r3.
> >
> > ~ $ eix ^udev$
> > * sys-fs/udev
> >      Available versions:  068-r1 069 070-r1 071 072 073 077 077-r1 077-r2
> > 077-r3 077-r4 077-r5 078 079 079-r1 081 081-r1 084 085 086 087 089 089-r1
> > 089-r2 090
> >      Installed:           090
> >      Homepage:
> > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html
> >      Description:         Linux dynamic and persistent device naming
> > support (aka userspace devfs)
> >
> > Found 1 matches
> >
> > ~ $ cat /etc/modules.d/alsa
> > # Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
> > #
> > $Header:
> > /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-modules.conf-r
> >c, v 1.1 2003/08/05 21:07:55 johnm Exp $
> >
> > # ALSA portion
> > alias char-major-116 snd
> > # OSS/Free portion
> > alias char-major-14 soundcore
> >
> > ##
> > ## IMPORTANT:
> > ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> > ## and then run `update-modules' command.
> > ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> > ##
> > ##  ALSA portion
> > alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371
> > alias snd-card-1 snd-ice1712
> > ##  OSS/Free portion
> > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> > alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> > ##
> >
> > # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> > ##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> > alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> > alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> > alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
> >
> > alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> > alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> > alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
> >
> > options snd-card-1 model=dmx6fire
> >
> > # Set this to the correct number of cards.
> >
> > options snd cards_limit=2
> >
> > I searched bugzilla for sound, alsa and udev, but found nothing useful.
> > Well http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128601 sounds similar, but
> > it's about cdroms and an older version of udev.
> > Any idea, what's the problem here?

no answer yet? Sad but true ;) Problem still exists. I now have 
/etc/init.d/alsasound restart in /etc/conf.d/local.start and this "works".
I'd be glad, if someone could give me a better solution for this. 

Regards,
Michael





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Re: [gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent

[wu chuanwen]

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Hi!
I don't konw why you need two soundcard! I just think that maybe one is
enough.Once before I had two sound cards too,and at that time my gentoo can
not have any sound(maybe not because  i had two soundcards but the init
script).Anyway, I just reset my bios,and mask my first  soundcard which is
in my board,and then the problem gone!Now everything is good!
Maybe you can have a try if you don't need two soundcards!

2006/4/19, Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@gmx.de>:
>
> Dear gentoo-users,
> yesterday I recognized a strange problem with my soundcards. I have two
> soundcards in my system. A Soundblaster, ens1371 based, and a Terratec
> DMX6Fire, which uses an ice1712 chip. The Soundblaster is used as the
> primary
> soundcard, recording from tape or vinyl and stereo playback, the ice1712
> one
> is used for 5.1 playback of dvds.
> So, the normal situation is as follows:
> ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
>                       Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 16
> 1 [DMX6Fire       ]: ICE1712 - TerraTec DMX6Fire
>                       TerraTec DMX6Fire at 0xc400, irq 19
>
> Now, after boot, I _sometimes_ get this one:
>
> ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [DMX6Fire       ]: ICE1712 - TerraTec DMX6Fire
>                       TerraTec DMX6Fire at 0xc400, irq 19
> 1 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
>                       Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 16
>
> which I don't want, because I always have to adjust my applications ;)
> After executing /etc/init.d/alsasound restart, things are as expected.
> Some more info:
> ~ $ uname -a
> Linux pc 2.6.15-gentoo-r3 #2 Mon Feb 27 22:36:46 CET 2006 i686 AMD
> Athlon(tm)
> 64 Processor 3000+ GNU/Linux
>
> ~ $ cat /proc/asound/version
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc5.
> Compiled on Apr 12 2006 for kernel 2.6.15-gentoo-r3.
>
> ~ $ eix ^udev$
> * sys-fs/udev
>      Available versions:  068-r1 069 070-r1 071 072 073 077 077-r1 077-r2
> 077-r3 077-r4 077-r5 078 079 079-r1 081 081-r1 084 085 086 087 089 089-r1
> 089-r2 090
>      Installed:           090
>      Homepage:
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html
>      Description:         Linux dynamic and persistent device naming
> support
> (aka userspace devfs)
>
> Found 1 matches
>
> ~ $ cat /etc/modules.d/alsa
> # Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
> #
> $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-
> modules.conf-rc,v
> 1.1 2003/08/05 21:07:55 johnm Exp $
>
> # ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>
> ##
> ## IMPORTANT:
> ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> ## and then run `update-modules' command.
> ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> ##
> ##  ALSA portion
> alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371
> alias snd-card-1 snd-ice1712
> ##  OSS/Free portion
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> ##
>
> # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> ##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
>
> options snd-card-1 model=dmx6fire
>
> # Set this to the correct number of cards.
>
> options snd cards_limit=2
>
> I searched bugzilla for sound, alsa and udev, but found nothing useful.
> Well
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128601 sounds similar, but it's
> about
> cdroms and an older version of udev.
> Any idea, what's the problem here?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Michael
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> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent

[Mark Knecht]

> 2006/4/19, Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@gmx.de>:
<SNIP>

Add the following two lines. Set the order which ever way you want. 0
will be your default card:

options snd-ens1371 index=0
options snd-ice1712 index=1

> > options snd cards_limit=2
> >
>
Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Hi Mark,

Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 18:26 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> > 2006/4/19, Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@gmx.de>:
> <SNIP>
> Add the following two lines. Set the order which ever way you want. 0
> will be your default card:
> options snd-ens1371 index=0
> options snd-ice1712 index=1
> > > options snd cards_limit=2

seems this solved my issues. No wrong sound-setup since I added this. I'll 
come back when the behaviour changes again :)

> Cheers,
> Mark

thanks a lot,
Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Hi,

Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 16:44 schrieb wu chuanwen:
> Hi!
> I don't konw why you need two soundcard! I just think that maybe one is
> enough.Once before I had two sound cards too,and at that time my gentoo can
> not have any sound(maybe not because  i had two soundcards but the init
> script).Anyway, I just reset my bios,and mask my first  soundcard which is
> in my board,and then the problem gone!Now everything is good!
> Maybe you can have a try if you don't need two soundcards!

as I wrote, one of them is connected to 5.1-System, the other is connected to 
my big stereo-amp. I need them both, cause this are two totally independent 
setups in one machine :)

Thanks anyways,
Michael
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[gentoo-user] Re: soundcards inconsistent

[Michael Mauch]

wu chuanwen wrote:

> I don't konw why you need two soundcard! I just think that maybe one is
> enough.Once before I had two sound cards too,and at that time my gentoo can
> not have any sound(maybe not because  i had two soundcards but the init
> script).Anyway, I just reset my bios,and mask my first  soundcard which is
> in my board,and then the problem gone!Now everything is good!
> Maybe you can have a try if you don't need two soundcards!

I'm also using two soundcards now (onboard sound on A8V Deluxe and
CMI8738), because the onboard sound has no SPDIF input and the CMI8738
doesn't have internal connectors for headphones/mic for the front
connectors of the case.

  Michael
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