From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EAfe4-0001hz-Ei for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 03:21:44 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j813IUKS004154; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:18:30 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j813EWnq017594 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 03:14:33 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so185954nzc for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:16:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XeEGgOsEQQU2yGeJ/VF+7ypkl9LHryv6I9O/2khfo1MrQsZdb8AFF7iYAL9ADhtLujLLMpMyFZBxELveMSZAwjEPJrSrKOf8HUOhY0Nga2YhGGCdgU1HpP71/rocanxIelDWlT80CXMuzuhzprOOicpOWDRhEn7ZJWIGh5ZDVys= Received: by 10.36.148.13 with SMTP id v13mr1023233nzd; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.60.4 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05083120167a93c7f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:16:55 -0700 From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to work with etc-updates. In-Reply-To: <43164F75.8080208@nethere.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <43146614.6000002@nethere.com> <5bdc1c8b050830072344fa76c1@mail.gmail.com> <43164F75.8080208@nethere.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id j813EWnq017594 X-Archives-Salt: 70c9363c-851e-45a9-b994-1bf550cf248c X-Archives-Hash: 070acb3dfee7c6b398a0a817deb914f1 On 8/31/05, Jerry Turba wrote: > Thanks everyone for your help. I will try using Marks rules and start > using dispatch-conf to be able to roll back any changes that don't seem > to work. > Jerry > Darn, that's scary! OK, if you're gonna follow someone as blind as me le me expand these a bit so that I can say I really tried... > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > >My rules are: > > > >1) The update was put there for a reason. > > > >2) If it's a file in /etc/initd then I update it automatically. This rule is still true. I am not a programmer and will never edit an init script. For me these are 100% updated ASAP. > > > >3) If it's a file in /etc/conf.d then I update it very carefully. This rule is true but needs some expanding on. We all edit a few /etc/conf.d files, for hostname, rc for whether to use a tarball or not, etc. I know the 5 or 6 that I edit. If the etc-update is for one of those files then I generally go very carefully. Mostly I'll let etc-update do it's thing, but I look very carefully at all changes, and then I go back and redo my edit by hand if it's necessary when etc-update is done. However, today I did an emerge and etc-update wanted to do something to /etc/conf.d/spam. Since I know I do not edit that file I just let it do the update. No problem. > > > >4) If it's a file in /etc/, /etc/X11, or elsewhere the I update it > >very carefully but possibly not right now. This rule is still true. My experience is that xorg.conf is often more heavily modified by me so I don't want that getting changed. I will often make a copy of my current file and then let etc-update do it's thing and then go back and redo my work by hand again. It's tedious, and I know that many others would think it strange what I do, but seems to be the safest for me. > > > >5) Anything else, I go slow. Maybe I look for messages from others on > >this list having problems before I do something. Still true unless it looks like a file that I consider system oriented in which case I just let it happen and hope for the best. Linux is a tool for me. I don't do system stuff myself so if the devs want it changed let it change. > > > >My experience is that rules 2 & 3 account for 80-90% of the updates. > > Hope this helps. Good luck, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list