From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306AD138E20 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA187E0EF6; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C488E0D7F for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.136] (helo=smtp5.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGwnV-0002cs-3N for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:34:13 +0100 Received: from 53579160.cm-6-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.145.96] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp5.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGwnU-0006ca-Sn for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:34:13 +0100 Received: from www.antarean.org (net.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.13]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60B84B for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:33:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from 10.55.16.19 (SquirrelMail authenticated user joost) by www.antarean.org with HTTP; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:33:44 +0100 Message-ID: <5b3a85c3098fa64bc97d071b1b957ce8.squirrel@www.antarean.org> In-Reply-To: <53078DF7.30603@thegeezer.net> References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <20140217215255.5766cb026df2f0b8002f8702@gmail.com> <5302c048.462f0e0a.3d3e.5888@mx.google.com> <20140218210633.d25f4bb88b3891f7c0ed11c6@gmail.com> <20140218220712.9ec8d2529ef49d743b3bc826@gmail.com> <5304576E.4000704@sporkbox.us> <5304A5DE.4050905@libertytrek.org> <5305FACC.8080705@libertytrek.org> <530646EA.4020300@libertytrek.org> <5306603C.1040602@libertytrek.org> <53078DF7.30603@thegeezer.net> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:33:44 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.4 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_40=-0.001,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982,RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.574 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: 4a89b280-d3f7-4445-8b16-a6c8e2032a71 X-Archives-Hash: 7c8b8722141f21b4f15f11b9219013ae On Fri, February 21, 2014 18:33, thegeezer wrote: > On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > .. setting systemd to log to syslog to make transitions smoother (as > logs are lost on reboot by default) Eeerh, logs are lost on reboot? I only had (it died last weekend) one (yes, ONE) machine that was so configured and that was a netbook with only 16GB SSD. On all my machines I want to SEE the logs especially if it reboots unexpectedly.