From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-186470-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2A07138334 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FF87E0856; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hosts.co.uk (smtp.hosts.co.uk [85.233.160.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18DD2E0822 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [81.153.109.171] (helo=[192.168.1.82]) by smtp.hosts.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim) (envelope-from <antlists@youngman.org.uk>) id 1h1bwb-0003id-59 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2019 19:11:09 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --sync source To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <2837719.MWtaJtHztM@peak> <2410460.SRdokNN0TT@peak> <CAGfcS_kErK_F8snJbZFZyNd79xAF9up6mcANqkWFq0ZTvAUgbg@mail.gmail.com> <3452871.r0BK9GXL9f@peak> <1551889882.229992.29.camel@openeye.net> <CAGfcS_n_hDGZSt-xWf9khOGG6vtXWpR5PtpafhaQW0z1u=AxzA@mail.gmail.com> <20190306173919.GB3921@ACM> From: Wols Lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk> X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5C801B4C.7090906@youngman.org.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:11:08 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190306173919.GB3921@ACM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7029e724-4ef5-41c9-8554-60ac6046ed7b X-Archives-Hash: 38e5be2189df476150fc0dbc66965ee3 On 06/03/19 17:39, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Up to now, I've never had a HDD or SDD fail on me. :-) I hope that > when this does eventually happen, I'll be prepared. I don't think I've had one of mine fail. I have, however, done recovery jobs on two drives that did fail that I managed to revive long enough to get the data off. And I currently have a second drive that is properly dead, whose owner has asked me to destroy it to make sure that nothing can be recovered off it (the first drive I had in that state was a 60 *G*B drive, which tells you that it was a long time ago). Drives are reliable. Drives do last a long time, and I think many drives have been upgraded before they failed. But nowadays, drives are so large that people don't fill them up and upgrade, so they are used a lot longer, and you're seeing them fail more often. I think I've handled five dead drives (friends and acquaintances) in my career and I'm sure others have seen a lot more. Cheers, Wol