From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N3ZBi-0000o4-Rt for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:53:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DF70E089C; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC996E089C for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:53:28 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,647,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="138341317" Received: from unknown (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2009 17:53:28 +0000 Received: from funf.stroller.uk.eu.org (funf.stroller.uk.eu.org [192.168.1.71]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F8F8130 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:53:24 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <5AEDBB02-F0B0-4C68-AD84-BE6CDC228391@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> From: Stroller To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re (DONE): kde4 upgrading Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:53:24 +0000 References: <200910280024.30685.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Archives-Salt: a6f90bcc-5c48-4dfe-a591-9977572c086b X-Archives-Hash: b558006a473e9c0ac24469f28459007a On 29 Oct 2009, at 14:59, James wrote: > Stroller stellar.eclipse.co.uk> writes: > > >> I think that alternative methods of approaching system administration >> are sure to bring their own problems and require an investment of >> time >> to implement, but I don't see how upgrading machines one by one is >> sustainable. Honestly, it would be driving me crazy to be in your >> position, and I think some other alternative might well show time and >> hassle saved once it's up and running. > ... > > Thanks for the unecessary tongue lashing. > The systems rarely are at my location. I just cannot upgrade them > at my decision, as they belong to others. > > > Some of the machines I do not physically get for 6 months at a time. > ... I didn't intend to give you a tongue-lashing, and I'm sorry if I offended you. I was just trying to help and suggest a better way. Obviously, I didn't know that the machines are in diverse locations, and obviously that makes a unified strategy impossible. I fear there's very little you can do, except log in remotely and regularly, allowing you to minimise update hassles and become familiar with issues as they are current. Stroller.