From: Wols Lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 21:39:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5AC6897E.1060406@youngman.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5522954.cWc91H1H0U@dell_xps>
On 05/04/18 18:53, Mick wrote:
> On Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:12:06 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:47:43 BST Wol's lists wrote:
>
>>> But again this comes down to another moan of mine - why is "The Queen's
>>> English" considered "correct", while let's say Yorkshire Dialect is
>>> considered "wrong", when said dialect is hundreds of years old but the
>>> Queen's English has probably only been around for about a century.
>>
>> Correctness is not a helpful concept in a living language, not least because
>> it changes from decade to decade. Besides, are you confusing Queen's
>> English with Received Pronunciation?
>
> Quite. As far as accents goes my understanding is they are essentially one
> and the same and were shaped by the Hanoverian/Saxe-Coburg-Gotha German
> accents of the English Royals and their courtiers. The way I see it, the
> Saxons won the pronunciation war over the Vikings. :-)
>
Not necessarily :-)
Because dialect is a lot more than pronunciation. It's also spelling,
and vocabulary.
To some extent I was thinking of what I believe is called "the great
fricative shift", and the frenchification of our spelling in the 17/18
hundreds.
(My daughter has moved to Yorkshire, so we have the occasional
head-scratch when she comes out with dialect words, although her accent
reverts almost instantly to South-London when we're around. Her
husband's family hail from further north so they can be hard to
understand. And my interest in Scottish and pre-Norman history has given
me an understanding of where English has come from, which has nothing to
do with where most people think it came from - the Saxons speak English,
the Angles speak Scots, and the Scots speak Gaelic ... :-)
Cheers,
Wol
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2018-03-30 22:28 [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question Dale
2018-03-31 1:57 ` Adam Carter
2018-03-31 2:23 ` Dale
2018-03-31 2:35 ` tuxic
2018-03-31 2:45 ` Dale
2018-03-31 3:05 ` tuxic
2018-03-31 3:36 ` Dale
2018-03-31 3:45 ` tuxic
2018-04-02 8:54 ` Dale
2018-04-02 8:59 ` Dale
2018-04-02 15:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-02 15:26 ` Daniel Frey
2018-04-02 15:44 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-02 17:19 ` Philip Webb
2018-04-02 16:18 ` Martin Vaeth
2018-04-02 20:14 ` Dale
2018-04-02 20:50 ` Philip Webb
2018-04-02 21:08 ` Dale
2018-04-03 8:28 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-04-03 9:02 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-04-03 10:18 ` Marc Joliet
2018-04-03 9:53 ` [gentoo-user] frenchspacing (was: Firefox and addons no longer supported question) Martin Vaeth
2018-04-04 18:12 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question Wol's lists
2018-04-05 7:23 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-05 8:57 ` [gentoo-user] [OT] " Peter Humphrey
2018-04-05 11:23 ` Mick
2018-04-05 11:53 ` Wol's lists
2018-04-05 11:47 ` Wol's lists
2018-04-05 17:12 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-04-05 17:53 ` Mick
2018-04-05 20:39 ` Wols Lists [this message]
2018-04-05 20:41 ` Wols Lists
2018-04-03 20:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2018-03-31 3:42 ` [gentoo-user] " tuxic
2018-03-31 12:18 ` [gentoo-user] Firefox with tab-grouping Philip Webb
2018-03-31 18:45 ` Dale
2018-03-31 8:18 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question Martin Vaeth
2018-03-31 10:17 ` Arve Barsnes
2018-03-31 10:37 ` tuxic
2018-03-31 13:21 ` Martin Vaeth
2018-03-31 17:36 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-01 9:15 ` Martin Vaeth
2018-04-01 14:35 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-01 16:29 ` Martin Vaeth
2018-04-01 22:26 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-01 23:22 ` Dale
2018-04-02 0:28 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-02 1:44 ` Bill Kenworthy
2018-04-02 5:41 ` Martin Vaeth
2018-04-02 7:37 ` tuxic
2018-04-02 8:23 ` Martin Vaeth
2018-04-02 8:32 ` tuxic
2018-04-02 8:33 ` Dale
2018-04-02 8:50 ` Walter Dnes
2018-04-02 10:14 ` Martin Vaeth
2018-04-02 9:48 ` Bill Kenworthy
2018-04-02 10:24 ` Martin Vaeth
2018-04-02 0:20 ` Michael King
2018-04-01 15:55 ` [gentoo-user] " Taiidan
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