From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A995139083 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62493E0FBD; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auth-3.ukservers.net (auth-3.ukservers.net [217.10.138.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3A4CE0FB5 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (host86-146-207-65.range86-146.btcentralplus.com [86.146.207.65]) by auth-3.ukservers.net (Postfix smtp) with ESMTPA id A268754136C for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:39:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <2410697.Nf28CZmUYN@peak> <9acb40cb-86cf-d5dc-e429-6f0f5fb06d36@gentoo.org> <5a96091d-ee40-ec9c-10c2-4a1417fddfe2@youngman.org.uk> <20171218202554.ih57o2si72q3jyxn@grusum.endjinn.de> From: Wols Lists Message-ID: <5A3940D6.5080907@youngman.org.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:39:50 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3341d219-bc4f-490b-a93f-4e5492caae5e X-Archives-Hash: fbf672835d6cbf17cdbd1748fea94790 On 19/12/17 13:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > There are no safe, free names to use for an internal network. On the one > hand, RFC 8244 makes a decent argument that this is a good thing, > because it guarantees that every hostname is globally unique (so if I > copy/paste a URL to you, it goes the same place on your machine as it > did mine). On the other hand, I hate the idea of paying some bureaucrat > to be able to use my own network. Which was why I liked Demon as my ISP. They had a customer domain and assigned you a name on it. Whether you used it as a host or domain name was up to you. Most ISPs now assume you are a client and don't give you proper internet :-( Cheers, Wol