From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06F371396D9 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79A9F2BC17C; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auth-4.ukservers.net (auth-4.ukservers.net [217.10.138.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 157652BC131 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (host86-146-201-152.range86-146.btcentralplus.com [86.146.201.152]) by auth-4.ukservers.net (Postfix smtp) with ESMTPA id 5F1251521187 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:17:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <1922379.ZbMImBqxyj@dell_xps> <20171030091007.03b2076d@peak.prhnet> <6d7133e2-942a-6977-dfa8-67bc1d13085d@gmail.com> <2841922.QJUve94b6F@dell_xps> From: Wols Lists Message-ID: <59F8B028.4020905@youngman.org.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:17:28 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ed18b5f6-3218-44ec-ac1b-0d5b30c3acd3 X-Archives-Hash: cc363ddabccf3a12cd3c200991d33494 On 30/10/17 23:32, Rich Freeman wrote: > Often there are elements of a traditionally public service that aren't > natural monopolies which can be outsourced for a benefit. Electrical > generation is often a case of that, but as I suggested you do need to > ensure you're paying to have extra capacity online. Exactly. The infrastructure should be a commonhold - the householders jointly own the wires in town sort of thing. Then they can buy from any generator, who rents the wires to deliver. Cheers, Wol