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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:11:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5971061.MhkbZ0Pkbq@rogueboard> In-Reply-To: References: <5799968.DvuYhMxLoT@cube> <4939706.GXAFRqVoOG@rogueboard> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1803227.VLH7GnMWUR"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-PPP-Message-ID: <172405873493.2189959.7388489534604479017@cloud238.thundercloud.uk> X-PPP-Vhost: kintzios.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 682401E000A X-Rspamd-Server: mailclean11 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.61 / 999.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[kintzios.com,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FUZZY_BLOCKED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34931, ipnet:149.255.60.0/22, country:GB]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM(-0.00)[-0.758]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[confabulate@kintzios.com] X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Archives-Salt: af8889ad-b1bd-4c52-b2b9-f696058e4682 X-Archives-Hash: 8ad5497181e628a000e728729d4bedd1 --nextPart1803227.VLH7GnMWUR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE? Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:11:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5971061.MhkbZ0Pkbq@rogueboard> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Monday, 19 August 2024 00:12:27 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 18 August 2024 19:15:32 BST Dale wrote: > >> Well, there's something different because it "feels" different. I keep > >> hitting keys to one side or the other mostly. The only difference I can > >> see, the key caps are shorter than the old Dell QuietKey. I suspect > >> the key caps are twice as tall on the old Dell. Also, the old Dell had > >> more travel for each key press too. I've used that old thing for over > >> 20 years. My old brain can't learn new tricks. ROFL > >> > >> I been looking for a keyboard that is like the old Dell QuietKey but > >> they either ridiculously expensive or are old Dell keyboards with the > >> PS/2 connector like I already have. Thought about buying a adapter so I > >> can use the old Dell. That would fix the problem. > >> > >> Now that I've proofed this thing half a dozen times and corrected a > >> bunch of typos, let's hit send. LOL If I was a book writer, forget > >> about it. I'd retire. o_- > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> :-) :-) > > > > I suspect you were used to a membrane keyboard, or if it clickety-clacked > > noisily a mechanical switch keyboard, with full travel switches. Now you > > have bought a low profile scissor switch keyboard, with tactile switches. > > The distance between the keys is the same, but the travel and feel is > > different. > > > > Over time you'd get used to the new switches, which require less effort > > and > > force. > > That's likely true. It does feel weird. It's not as loud as those > really old IBM keyboards like from the 80's and 90's. It made some > noise just not as much as those. Sometimes I'm pressing a key and don't > even know it. Hmm ... perhaps you haven't bought a tactile keyboard after all? These kind of keyboards provide a tactile bump at ~1/3 of the key travel to let you know you've activated a key. Some have a more distinct feedback bump than others and low or especially the ultra-low profile keys with their less than 2mm total travel will hit the stop as soon as you press the key past the bump. > Then I end up with several of the same characters in a row. The typing style for low profile keyboards is different to your old keyboard. You are not meant to rest your hands/fingers on the keyboard and then jump on the keys as if it were a mechanical typewriter. Instead your fingers are meant to float over it. However, what you're describing is key switch chatter. Mechanical keyboard switches can suffer from this problem. You depress a key once and once only, but it registers multiple inputs. It can be *very* annoying! There are some fixes for mechanical gaming keyboards, but if you have a new keyboard you'd be better off asking to RMA it. If the chatter is not caused by the keyboard switches, then you could set a longer delay in your Plasma SystemSettings > Input Devices > Keyboard to see if this ameliorates the multiple input problem. > Others times, I hit a key next to the one I want to push. When > searching around, I found lots of other posts about people missing those > old Dell QuietKey keyboards. I'm not alone. We had the old RT7D5JTW Dell keyboards at work. These were high quality keyboards made in Thailand, as opposed to China. If I recall correctly, they had the rubber dome over membrane key switches with a slider mechanism. Despite the physical abuse they received by ex-type writer users they survived even when the odd cup of tea was spilled over them! You had to turn them over immediately and let them dry overnight. https://deskthority.net/wiki/Rubber_dome > It's annoying as heck. I spend twice as much time correcting typos than > I do actually typing something in. My typing was bad enough already. LOL It may be worth heading to a store to try different types of keyboard to find the one your fingers like best. Or, you could buy an adaptor to connect your PS/2 old keyboard to a USB port. Careful though, some really cheap PS/2 to USB adaptors are only good for a PS/ 2 mouse and won't work with a keyboard. --nextPart1803227.VLH7GnMWUR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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