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* [gentoo-user] Where be me icons?
@ 2018-10-07  3:56 Alan Grimes
  2018-10-07 10:33 ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Alan Grimes @ 2018-10-07  3:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Because each update basically rebuilds the same three or four
super-packages (libreoffice, chromium, the kde collection, etc) all of
which are version bumped every 12 milliseconds just to annoy ppl like
me, and because I had such a Good Time (tm) last SEVERAL times I tried
to update, I decided to put it off for six months....

Well later that day X'doze crashes after an uptime of about 30 days...
(So I updated, there were problems but nothing worse than par...)

Also, I realize that Linux is going to go through a Dark Age and
probably be destroyed and re-built several times before emerging again
as a usable operating system, I am going to be climbing up from my
previous freeze at 4.15 to 4.18 which I will probably have to nurse
through 5-6 years of war and upheval...

(I am currently on 4.16, will try to go to 4.17 at next boot...)

The biggest problem I have right now is all the button-icons in fvwm
have gone poof. =(

I didn't do anything that portage didn't demand I do... The window
manager is really not usable without those icons, I know some of them by
memory but a 3x3 matrix of blank buttons is not acceptable.

The only two window managers available on gentoo, are twm -- which is
all you need as an emergency de-fsck tool and fvwm which will do 99% of
everything you actually need.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Where be me icons?
  2018-10-07  3:56 [gentoo-user] Where be me icons? Alan Grimes
@ 2018-10-07 10:33 ` Mick
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2018-10-07 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Sunday, 7 October 2018 04:56:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote:
> =\
> 
> Because each update basically rebuilds the same three or four
> super-packages (libreoffice, chromium, the kde collection, etc) all of
> which are version bumped every 12 milliseconds just to annoy ppl like
> me, and because I had such a Good Time (tm) last SEVERAL times I tried
> to update, I decided to put it off for six months....

On a stable install the annoyance is much reduced, to the point of being non-
existent.  Chromium and FF may ask to be updated once every 2-4 weeks. KDE/
Plasma once every 3-4 months.  Yes, there may be the odd version bump here and 
there, but not often enough to cause a problem.

On an ~arch you get what you asked for.


> Well later that day X'doze crashes after an uptime of about 30 days...
> (So I updated, there were problems but nothing worse than par...)
> 
> Also, I realize that Linux is going to go through a Dark Age and
> probably be destroyed and re-built several times before emerging again
> as a usable operating system, I am going to be climbing up from my
> previous freeze at 4.15 to 4.18 which I will probably have to nurse
> through 5-6 years of war and upheval...
> 
> (I am currently on 4.16, will try to go to 4.17 at next boot...)
> 
> The biggest problem I have right now is all the button-icons in fvwm
> have gone poof. =(
> 
> I didn't do anything that portage didn't demand I do... The window
> manager is really not usable without those icons, I know some of them by
> memory but a 3x3 matrix of blank buttons is not acceptable.
> 
> The only two window managers available on gentoo, are twm -- which is
> all you need as an emergency de-fsck tool and fvwm which will do 99% of
> everything you actually need.

There are many more.  Try:

ls /usr/portage/x11-wm

The icons problem you are mentioning is usually caused by a theme not being 
specified, or the one specified having components missing.  I am not familiar 
with fvwm, but have a look at logs in e.g. ~/.xsession-errors to see what it 
can't find.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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