[gentoo-user] MASKED Tilde with no `arch' what does it mean

[gentoo-user] MASKED Tilde with no `arch' what does it mean

[Harry Putnam]

Trying to emerge emacs-24, testing with:

emerge -vp =emacs-vcs-24.0.9999

I'm told its masked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask

But when I look there, I see:
  # Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> (10 Mar 2010)
  # Emacs live ebuilds. Use at your own risk.
  ~app-editors/emacs-vcs-23.1.9999
  ~app-editors/emacs-vcs-24.0.9999
  ~virtual/emacs-24

With no explanation of what the Tilde means.

Looking thru man emerge in the MASKED section there is only one mention of
tilde and its in relation to notating architecture like ~x86.

All Ulrich M. says is `use at your own risk'

Ok, fine but first I want to find out what the unexplained tilde
means. There are only a handfull of packagew with that notation in the
masked file... where do look to find out its meaning?

PS- and by the way, there is no mention what so ever of `tilde' in 
man portage.  

Re: [gentoo-user] MASKED Tilde with no `arch' what does it mean

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:19:03 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

> Ok, fine but first I want to find out what the unexplained tilde
> means. There are only a handfull of packagew with that notation in the
> masked file... where do look to find out its meaning?

Try man 5 ebuild.

"~ means match any revision of the base version specified."


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Re: [gentoo-user] MASKED Tilde with no `arch' what does it mean

[Paul Hartman]

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Trying to emerge emacs-24, testing with:
>
> emerge -vp =emacs-vcs-24.0.9999
>
> I'm told its masked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask
>
> But when I look there, I see:
>  # Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> (10 Mar 2010)
>  # Emacs live ebuilds. Use at your own risk.
>  ~app-editors/emacs-vcs-23.1.9999
>  ~app-editors/emacs-vcs-24.0.9999
>  ~virtual/emacs-24
>
> With no explanation of what the Tilde means.
>
> Looking thru man emerge in the MASKED section there is only one mention of
> tilde and its in relation to notating architecture like ~x86.
>
> All Ulrich M. says is `use at your own risk'
>
> Ok, fine but first I want to find out what the unexplained tilde
> means. There are only a handfull of packagew with that notation in the
> masked file... where do look to find out its meaning?
>
> PS- and by the way, there is no mention what so ever of `tilde' in
> man portage.

I think generally in portage tilde means "about". For example if you
want to mask ~foo-1.00 it will also cover foo-1.00-r1 etc. rather than
mask >=foo-1.0.0 and <foo-1.0.1

[gentoo-user] Re: MASKED Tilde with no `arch' what does it mean

[»Q«]

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:19:03 -0500
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
 
> Ok, fine but first I want to find out what the unexplained tilde
> means. There are only a handfull of packagew with that notation in the
> masked file... where do look to find out its meaning?

~category/package-version denotes all revision ebuilds of that
version, e.g. category/package-version-r2.

I don't recall whether or where it's documented.

-- 
»Q«
     Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.

[gentoo-user] Re: MASKED Tilde with no `arch' what does it mean

[Harry Putnam]

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> writes:

> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:19:03 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> Ok, fine but first I want to find out what the unexplained tilde
>> means. There are only a handfull of packagew with that notation in the
>> masked file... where do look to find out its meaning?
>
> Try man 5 ebuild.
>
> "~ means match any revision of the base version specified."

Thanks... now I can go ahead and trash my system... hehe.

Seriously, Do you know why emacs-24 is masked like that?

What little I know of Ulrich Mueller is that he is quite a stalwart
fellow and not much would get by him.  I guess its just that its the
cvs version eh?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MASKED Tilde with no `arch' what does it mean

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:34:41 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

> Seriously, Do you know why emacs-24 is masked like that?
> 
> What little I know of Ulrich Mueller is that he is quite a stalwart
> fellow and not much would get by him.  I guess its just that its the
> cvs version eh?

Yes, CVS ebuilds are generally masked as they are too good a means of
breaking things to be installed without manual unmasking. Copy the mask
line to /etc/portage/package.unmask/emacs to see if it breaks for you.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Fill what's empty, empty what's full, scratch where it itches.

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[gentoo-user] Re: MASKED Tilde with no `arch' what does it mean

[Harry Putnam]

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> writes:

> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:34:41 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> Seriously, Do you know why emacs-24 is masked like that?
>> 
>> What little I know of Ulrich Mueller is that he is quite a stalwart
>> fellow and not much would get by him.  I guess its just that its the
>> cvs version eh?
>
> Yes, CVS ebuilds are generally masked as they are too good a means of
> breaking things to be installed without manual unmasking. Copy the mask
> line to /etc/portage/package.unmask/emacs to see if it breaks for you.

No, no apparent problems.

But didn't we used to get `emacs-cvs' unmasked just with ~<ARCH>.

Before it changed to emacs-vcs... I don't recall having to manually
unmask it that way.