From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NedeT-000154-5Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:08:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F435E0E54 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f197.google.com (mail-yx0-f197.google.com [209.85.210.197]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90F0E09BA for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe35 with SMTP id 35so6950148yxe.2 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:41:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bJxD49DCoSpsKRVG39l+iZQ3ZvilW4mfBVGiQWSB9cA=; b=GXOuMNV87OcXigb4Msk2vzZ0MXejbxTRxK8H9H/BecdkMdHvud87gWoDSMsXsZqG6U jMAnRRJGGFyS1tNWSUYwgwOm5c8M6LSC6/YKvFHbbaU4tmLY74AC4nzdzAYQpnZ6g60z XwifZS8MN4IJ7cZ0LaHXTfH4t9/0jN0dxnlAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=COcNUPTyk4/cjibGBCdQvuiOCb8mxbP5DdIJwuPI0k33xkn8GqOWnT9XZzD4lNgVBQ MO5GF+wo1Uk4ps+XTruIgaarXIy02uAWZRnz43BECcVKAODn953+Wms68EONTRFJBRsW 5U7JsLGx3TeU6mDL65sCeBLuWWOu+Pym9BpWc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.150.131.2 with SMTP id e2mr4513640ybd.179.1265672500336; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:41:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100208222047.GA6553@muc.de> References: <20100208222047.GA6553@muc.de> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:41:40 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7cfd6d77c58e94d3 Message-ID: <58965d8a1002081541k18b9557x7906a54c1aa1e636@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? From: Paul Hartman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 707ad264-1ac9-483c-9ef6-51235b0f35ae X-Archives-Hash: 9e86b45d62ec66e71d7243dc4594b0b2 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Please, somebody, tell me all this HAL stuff is straightforwardly > explained in an easily accessible Gentoo document, so that I can hang my > head in shame and apologise for the noise! ;-) I believe you'll be hearing from Dale in the near future. :) HAL-in-xorg-in-a-nutshell: If you're using an ordinary desktop system, you shouldn't need to manually do anything. Just run X as usual and it should work. You can further customize behavior from inside Gnome/KDE/whatever using their configuration tools. Obviously that doesn't always work, at which point you'll then need to start editing stuff. But I wouldn't bother with it unless you're unable to get into X for some reason. The first place to look is the X log file, which contains info about the hardware it auto-detected. There's also quite a bit of outdated info from when the transition was taking place, much of it making things sound more complicated than they really are. (I have not RTFM) Are you able to get into X or is it failing?