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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and 
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>> >>
>>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>>> >> running on another machine.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bye...
>>> >>
>>> >>        Dirk
>>> >
>>> > Ah, bingo, thank you.  I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>> >
>>> > - Grant
>>>
>>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file?  What
>>> does it provide?
>>
>> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
>> everything required to provide a full X server
>>
>> --
>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
> I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
> emerge for xorg-x11:
>
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1  USE="-debug" 42 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0  USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1  USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2  88 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3  USE="-debug" 101 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 86 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1  USE="-debug" 82 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2  USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5  USE="-debug" 140 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 116 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2  USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0  USE="-debug" 73 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1  USE="-debug" 95 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2  USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3  USE="-debug" 91 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1  USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1  USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0  USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1  USE="-debug" 76 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1  USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1  USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 110 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1  USE="-debug" 65 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 213 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3  20 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1  USE="X" 70 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1  USE="X -nls" 284 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1  USE="X" 204 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 827 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 308 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 667 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 38 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0  USE="X" 376 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1  USE="X" 181 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 48 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1  USE="X -nls" 209 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0  USE="X" 330 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1  USE="X -nls" 45 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 552 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1  2,205 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 42 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0  USE="X" 1,457 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0  USE="X" 563 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 65 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 102 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 52 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 133 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 769 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 499 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 193 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 201 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 56 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 77 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0  USE="X" 344 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 185 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 41 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 40 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0  USE="X -nls" 655 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 150 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1  0 kB
>
> Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is.  Does
> anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?

I think if you don't use any of those other programs then you don't
need them, and if you install anything that needs them it'll pull them
in automatically. :) They're mostly low-level utilities. If your
system is working as-is then I don't think you'll be missing out on
anything by leaving it alone (after putting xorg-server into your
world file of course).