From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqtsz-0001Ou-4k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:21:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C681E088F; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com (mail-yx0-f189.google.com [209.85.210.189]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F1CE088F for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe27 with SMTP id 27so2357704yxe.10 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:21:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qrSp9gvLOK1w/CeCgv+gKOJgPFBPHuZvpWzBfnCAqc8=; b=ZDuJkjby89mgznaFQBQnMiTUBchk0cdMjUeE75fBNJYGFWsAWETvNgs/DkOXkePEbU LWrzmikzZULcJZ0E6d3SjIfF/P80Rn+R4oeW0UmBFiVO+23YpFXHmrojFpgwAcOTBXnW 1mqFubaOMkYKzrDrS5poJee7cW1zuIpEoFDRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wLqIb7XL7ne0LHJurd5Rg+WvyFINWHyIwczdDe7XM2lV9H5KA2nK3N9P16b2TmVO1D 7P7s29lIqMb7ZoHac3/KkTBaO4g80U0pkuHFurf2PyylRX9Hqwvq//myh+JahKzjyJuM FqZmCeGXpnUM4Tx1hyaAr3oFgC54OB6gWTopM= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.151.86.12 with SMTP id o12mr539868ybl.253.1253820107224; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:21:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ABBC4FA.207@gmail.com> References: <4ABAE27E.8070400@gmail.com> <4ABAFFCF.1060204@badapple.net> <4ABBBD7A.1050004@gmail.com> <58965d8a0909241202j21b66a0co6f488245700daf99@mail.gmail.com> <4ABBC4FA.207@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:21:47 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 886d2073aad191db Message-ID: <58965d8a0909241221l406b5d62i442ee680efd7caa7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG. From: Paul Hartman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: b8f01b9a-3748-4ec2-83fc-33cd3fa18cc4 X-Archives-Hash: 6cf78a982cbaf9396e3ec2ce80f484e2 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Dale wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> kashani wrote: >>> >>>> Dale wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to >>>>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty >>>>> fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't >>>>> have SATA on this rig. >>>>> >>>>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a >>>>> little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, >>>>> speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. >>>>> >>>> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. >>>> >>>> kashani >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive >>> before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and >>> have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: >>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 >>> >>> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I >>> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else? >>> >>> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is >>> this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since >>> it also says SATA II. >>> >> >> Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA >> built-in. :) >> >> This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using >> SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028 >> >> As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck, >> especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at >> least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and >> quick. >> >> For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of >> something like this: >> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537 >> >> >> > > I looked at the one that is $10.00 cheaper but it only has internal > connectors. I may have to have a external drive one day soon. I'm > about full on the 3.5' slots and I hate those little 3.5" to 5 1/4" > adapters. They always give me grief. > > I see what you mean on the little adapter. Wouldn't be any faster tho > would it? Wish they had that at newegg too. I cold order both at the > same time. o_O It is CHEAP too. DealExtreme is in Hong Kong so it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks to get things from there to here (in USA), but the prices are ridiculously low and they have just about everything when it comes to small adapters and USB gizmos. For external drives it might be easier to use USB (assuming you have USB 2.0 on that system). It might even be faster than eSata through a PCI card. I have an external USB hard drive and get consistantly around 35MiB/sec read and write speed...