[gentoo-user] upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

[gentoo-user] upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

[Maxim Wexler]

Hi group,

Before I did -uvDN world a couple of days ago the terminal that came
with xfce4 was quite nice, configurable, with tabs. Now the terminal
app really sucks. I've looked in ~/.config/xfce4 for something to
tweak but must have missed it.

Settings->Preferred Applications->Utilities leads to a dialogue window
where a Terminal Emulator may be chosen, but the only one that works
is the default X Terminal. If you click on Select Application you are
led to /usr/bin. I tried xfterm4 but when I clicked on terminal in the
menu nothing happened.

I see under ~/.local/share/xfce4/helpers there is an xterm config file
with the line:

X-XFCE-Commands=/usr/bin/xterm.

Is there something else I can point it too or do I need to emerge
something else to improve the terminal in Xfce-4.6.1?

Maxim

[gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

[walt]

On 09/21/2009 04:16 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> Before I did -uvDN world a couple of days ago the terminal that came
> with xfce4 was quite nice, configurable, with tabs. Now the terminal
> app really sucks. I've looked in ~/.config/xfce4 for something to
> tweak but must have missed it.
>
> Settings->Preferred Applications->Utilities leads to a dialogue window
> where a Terminal Emulator may be chosen, but the only one that works
> is the default X Terminal. If you click on Select Application you are
> led to /usr/bin. I tried xfterm4 but when I clicked on terminal in the
> menu nothing happened.
>
> I see under ~/.local/share/xfce4/helpers there is an xterm config file
> with the line:
>
> X-XFCE-Commands=/usr/bin/xterm.
>
> Is there something else I can point it too or do I need to emerge
> something else to improve the terminal in Xfce-4.6.1?

I would try running 'xfterm4' from a command prompt (in the sucky xterm
window, of course ;o) and look for error messages.  That's always the
first thing I try when clicking on an icon doesn't work.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

[Maxim Wexler]

Opens an identical xterm. In the original terminal it says

Warning: Cannot convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct

before spawning the new terminal.

Search results inconclusive.  BTW if you google "Warning: Cannot
convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct" + xfterm4 you get precisely
one hit, which I believe is known as a "googlewhack".

This is the terminal I want, the one I used to have:

http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/terminal

This is the terminal I have now:

http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal

mw

On 9/21/09, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/21/2009 04:16 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
>> Hi group,
>>
>> Before I did -uvDN world a couple of days ago the terminal that came
>> with xfce4 was quite nice, configurable, with tabs. Now the terminal
>> app really sucks. I've looked in ~/.config/xfce4 for something to
>> tweak but must have missed it.
>>
>> Settings->Preferred Applications->Utilities leads to a dialogue window
>> where a Terminal Emulator may be chosen, but the only one that works
>> is the default X Terminal. If you click on Select Application you are
>> led to /usr/bin. I tried xfterm4 but when I clicked on terminal in the
>> menu nothing happened.
>>
>> I see under ~/.local/share/xfce4/helpers there is an xterm config file
>> with the line:
>>
>> X-XFCE-Commands=/usr/bin/xterm.
>>
>> Is there something else I can point it too or do I need to emerge
>> something else to improve the terminal in Xfce-4.6.1?
>
> I would try running 'xfterm4' from a command prompt (in the sucky xterm
> window, of course ;o) and look for error messages.  That's always the
> first thing I try when clicking on an icon doesn't work.
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

[Philip Webb]

On 09/21/2009 04:16 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
> Before I did 'emerge -uvDN world' a couple of days ago
> the terminal that came with xfce4 was quite configurable with tabs.
> Now the terminal app really sucks.

Yet another problem when people do 'emerge ... world' (groan, not at you).
My own practice is to do 'emerge -Dup world' after 'eix-sync',
then choose which apps to actually emerge individually;
I keep a careful record of everything I installed & have updated.

090921 Maxim Wexler wrote:
> This is the terminal I want, the one I used to have:
>   http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/terminal
> This is the terminal I have now:
>   http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal

The link on the 2nd site to 'homepage' sends you to the 1st site.

I don't use the Xfce desktop, but I do use 'Terminal',
ie 'x11-terms/terminal-0.4.0', which has tabs & looks like the 1st site.
I notice there's a new dependency, if I were to remerge it :

  root:566 ~> emerge -pv x11-terms/terminal
    These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
    Calculating dependencies... done!
    [ebuild N ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.6.0  61 kB
    [ebuild R ] x11-terms/terminal-0.4.0 USE="dbus -debug -doc (-nls%)"

You could try doing that emerge & see if it helps at all;
you could also try running 'terminal' from the CLI & see what happens.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 00:41:39 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> I keep a careful record of everything I installed & have updated.

As does portage.


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[gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

[walt]

On 09/21/2009 09:13 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
> Opens an identical xterm. In the original terminal it says
>
> Warning: Cannot convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct
>
> before spawning the new terminal.
>
> Search results inconclusive.  BTW if you google "Warning: Cannot
> convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct" + xfterm4 you get precisely
> one hit, which I believe is known as a "googlewhack".
>
> This is the terminal I want, the one I used to have:
>
> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/terminal
>
> This is the terminal I have now:
>
> http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal...

Is this still a problem for you?  I just emerged x11-terms/terminal
(both versions) and both are like the one you want.  Neither package
has anything to do with xfterm4, so maybe that's an obsolete file.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:40 PM, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/21/2009 09:13 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
>>
>> Opens an identical xterm. In the original terminal it says
>>
>> Warning: Cannot convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct
>>
>> before spawning the new terminal.
>>
>> Search results inconclusive.  BTW if you google "Warning: Cannot
>> convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct" + xfterm4 you get precisely
>> one hit, which I believe is known as a "googlewhack".
>>
>> This is the terminal I want, the one I used to have:
>>
>> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/terminal
>>
>> This is the terminal I have now:
>>
>> http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal...
>
> Is this still a problem for you?  I just emerged x11-terms/terminal
> (both versions) and both are like the one you want.  Neither package
> has anything to do with xfterm4, so maybe that's an obsolete file.

I don't have xfce installed at the moment but a bit a googling shows
xfterm4 is a launcher script for the panel that opens a terminal (not
necessarily Terminal, depending on what you've configured). Maybe you
can look at it and see what it's trying to do.