From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MY5Qg-0006ez-SY for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:50:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84BBAE0388; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f177.google.com (mail-yx0-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64414E0388 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe7 with SMTP id 7so2358991yxe.32 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:50:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9sYsJ1pZ3c8/DyoKpuNR9pf8PsFpsPowLJ6lVUOw36E=; b=SCu/QcTLb2ileEqOwX9qFjQv62ePRDr1IozTTfanYIrKNPeEU2ytxEcupR9+omeHOP eo/phLo9N3n+qT0VsBq96Z4oD8ouc9koJ6wy0IaAGxvxTpxJ6B8/ZQV5v3+X4uB5k5Cj aqgYVxw3zG/DnBh+vhRy/B/APPtoIgWyZrdF8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QBfijvOCsNZ7hVINyw+GG7RTSMC9pLjmr6E+Lgu4YI9wSzL7EwxxuPu/bB4h13bbhB Er//e4oC+aMKCUQHl5w7M+eiIGwEoRCiy7UFwGlPB259SBMVqEOc7THjMvjTQ5T4Fxc2 mxD/+pU3lLdfR/FDF5AcE24ZSt5SR5QC25pjo= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.151.158.13 with SMTP id k13mr11379388ybo.110.1249336204968; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:50:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7757A6.2020402@gmail.com> References: <49bf44f10908031322y2b06b5ffx76ecb27092b9edfa@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0908031405g1cf04cbarc77d588072fdbe89@mail.gmail.com> <4A7757A6.2020402@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:50:04 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5d842f366fe5ebc1 Message-ID: <58965d8a0908031450j4de3804dm15f9079090e6dee8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter? From: Paul Hartman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 728d6dba-5876-4753-841d-9b59c5a46799 X-Archives-Hash: 12f82337d874eb7712b892aa99669fef On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Dale wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grant wrote: >> >>> Has anyone tried the shake defragmenter? >>> >> >> Yes, nothing has blown up yet. :) >> >> >> > > I used it a while back but couldn't really see a whole lot of > difference. The numbers said it helped but not much else changed. I > think logging into KDE was a little faster is about all. I'm with Alan > on this one. It just doesn't get fragmented like windoze does. I think it really depends on the situation. For example I have a fast connection (20 megabit) so to maximize it I will often have several downloads in parallel, which causes files to be very fragmented. I have experienced a noticeable slowdown reading really fragmented files (2 or 3Mbyte/sec, when normal reads are around 45Mbyte/sec). At speeds that slow it can be slower than the burn speed of a DVD, which is not good, and it just slows everything down in gernal. Small files (less than 1 megabyte) are rarely fragmented and even when they are, it isn't going to have any significant effect on performance. I would defrag large files or files that are downloaded/appended, such as /usr/portage/distfiles and /var/log. If you're dealing with large digital camera pictures, audio or video then I would definitely defrag those files. Everything else in /usr/bin and so on are probably not fragmented to begin with since the files are are written at-once and whole when you emerge packages.