From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LmUqb-0004qK-Dc for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:16:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2EE7E0716; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.144]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A451CE0716 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so59427qwc.10 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:16:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4QADUO64oOdLqY1DU9y/ezBWDmiseRIBZ2CBhHx1gpc=; b=xSI743rYVg1h43V22hCuIyxQTqxfGa4ghhUDF+ZkiSkfXneQtaAX6mXXJvg03s8XZu 8M+bAIJluU+i90Voy9mt8i00W9IRDdBjVHu9HRbxMkI5yNVc5pUm6O8E+2z85F73LkZ2 SjMTRDIWfcWj58ytrBqaDZmYtZT0lHylT8Wko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=G32xOI63AqpfqHTtC+yB7J/1uKG147akDfeiwl1wC2Ee/kRcu+04quovxYmjM9Ux56 ix/qROCjG+nmhM9IdBkZiMSpn0jRzvJD4uYbHhPZQ4oD9cflRz7emxyubjhd7sYUBMVn OpYgptXjW5lfl2Yu5ufB/0fLcKwH8ai2qtX+4= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.80.147 with SMTP id t19mr12615561qak.344.1237994211401; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:16:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903251614.38784.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> References: <1237779541.4874.1.camel@blackwidow.nbk> <20090325121414.44e86639@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> <20090325145421.GA25254@cubotto.ath.cx> <200903251614.38784.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:16:51 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 477354784fe33219 Message-ID: <58965d8a0903250816n7fb2b026hd7ed98eba43043fa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on? From: Paul Hartman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 764b4509-6e8b-4cd1-abd4-c5b2110378f8 X-Archives-Hash: d612e67016b73e522b21c30f46f59ef8 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 25 March 2009 16:54:21 Momesso Andrea wrote: >> Unfortunatly my BlackBerry doesn't allow bottom posting. I hope you guys >> forgive me for the few times I answer on this list using my mobile >> device. > > What? There's no down arrow on a BlackBerry? > > I don't have one of those devices, and fully intend to never have one, so if > there's a stupid implementation of the reply function, I'd never know it. But > just asking, that's all. There are many devices and webmail services that do quoting in the "Microsoft Outlook" style -- putting a one-line divider between the reply and the original message. No indentation or nesting of replies. This makes it harder to reply to specific parts of e-mails, but does show you the entire conversation unaltered (when everyone uses Outlook, anyway) -- and some companies actually /require/ that style of quoting, believe it or not. Replying to specific parts of an e-mail in Outlook (etc) is usually a joke. People resort to strange combinations of colorizing, changing fonts, emboldening, italicizing, etc. All of it is hideous and was solved 30 years ago by simple indentation and nesting of quotes... Thanks a lot, Microsoft. I use gmail for this and other mailing lists; it collapses quoted text and shows e-mails in a conversational view. It really does a good job of it and the top-posting and quoting-of-entire-emails really becomes a non-issue. It's the next best thing to having everyone quote properly.