From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUs7F-0005eJ-JG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:29:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80C0BE05E9; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.176]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F41FE05E9 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b25so1238550elf.1 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:29:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l4i0lnc2RV84M9qTimeFfF5ZtQ7YwiNCh+qtjteEztk=; b=NnRca206xXlx2QmxnsCpteQGU3nOD7ZGtYWNUVJZahUvkeGDF4QC8D+lv2ppHi6Htf owYvJB20W8DbFbHC++fPkPlvpsTL3I7gZacd9sI7Kyy6fGlVXgTX1CpgVxhBxiQn39gM X4hB/MpMmvD5P1Rs+NV7Aui1ziZhdA67zdndY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Z4hbXeuktOP3hptWvWciFCbdmrk9sQyI5SRjn5lzQ95i/CM2rGlhcJmGMgAeq5q3mK YiPjjotPXvtEtjtscM6oM9/gM8uBw+L3sVbifUKwQl/N7II219Wk4vjKWU75MEmotFGM ArelL4WCdlhJcAzrn/IHHP+54JcR92VEcFnDw= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.151.108.3 with SMTP id k3mr519816ybm.74.1233793751095; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:29:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090204222325.GA26421@anton.digitaltorque.ca> References: <200902041019.11503.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20090204222325.GA26421@anton.digitaltorque.ca> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:29:11 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: af4ad4c7a306add7 Message-ID: <58965d8a0902041629s410ec8e9n52bdaaff54459579@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] hal - what's the benefit of using it From: Paul Hartman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c4b5ecc4-ddd7-4b35-b31e-fc98181da92b X-Archives-Hash: fdb4b248c5f6ee51cf552048a32b1365 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 04/02/09 Alan McKinnon said: > >> Meanwhile, trying to run KDE or Gnome on a box without hal is becoming more >> and more painful with each update. Even xorg is getting in on the hal game >> and using hal to auto-configure input devices. > > That explains why even on Ubuntu I shut off dbus and hal, and run fluxbox. > > In Gentoo I'm using XFCE4 right now without hal. I can mount my own drives. I thought it only did the automounting stuff if you were in the plugdev group. That's the way the docs make it sound anyway. Also, you can selectively disable hal automounting on certain devices. For example I do not want it to automount CDROM but I do want it to automount my USB memory stick. Of course just getting rid of it completely does the job, too. :) Paul