From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMqeg-0002bM-P0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:18:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B94BAE0788; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.249]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0D5E0788 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so200571rvf.46 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:18:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I6/jDPM4h7tf6MvLLkXsQQ8/1+OUQvtKlUvVvCOty0M=; b=cFK6AXU8kGv9GeofZlNywNDiUwPWFxvi60G6bp/P4JIHqy8gwrYk7ORJnhnRt+ePMV RmGGMWHCGZntZdT1o3dnAevrV8WdUc9WeN0kUFm1Ot78Ui8WQZzeyhlCjSNGQXwGnR3c aok9pmaq5CmT4ZfCHQ017lS1Gb1tcQGHugkj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GxspvwuqYf/EOWKeM71VTGQzlBeaA5GAAlwU8UpzRMYRv+8cmZsXoy6ZReh3FELq3S wPnBfznbDUYES7/Oe0TLhaYnoFIyI1ESunTVir4jMXJ+HGCUrx/mZkA8Ln0fNtdxmU14 AAMs0btYcfOopFLx/3ir3mQvKidLfnOQ2jL9Q= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.141.36.10 with SMTP id o10mr15453978rvj.272.1231881512092; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:18:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <496D0178.1040704@gmail.com> References: <58965d8a0901130744p3d724207i9b911c9c3559d61d@mail.gmail.com> <496CF96A.6060208@gmail.com> <58965d8a0901131237q6ea02f05gae8862b22d44454c@mail.gmail.com> <496D0178.1040704@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:18:32 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fcfac2e232bf8a03 Message-ID: <58965d8a0901131318g602d992dj59d5e8c13e5a49f7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -e world' question From: Paul Hartman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 11f572e6-6789-4a7b-98a8-3d2884fe2c23 X-Archives-Hash: d85f4060bfd644b37d61c9408fc85f65 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Dale wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> Paul Hartman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I normally do "emerge -uDvN @world" (or in other words "emerge >>>> --update --deep --verbose --newuse @world"). Right now, it tells me >>>> this: >>>> >>>> Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB >>>> >>>> I also --depclean on a regular basis to remove any unneeded packages. >>>> Right now, it tells me this: >>>> >>>> No packages selected for removal by depclean >>>> >>>> Based on those two commands, I'm led to believe I have a fully updated >>>> system. So, then, I am curious why when I do "emerge -e @world" it >>>> tells me this: >>>> >>>> Total: 1432 packages (9 upgrades, 2 downgrades, 14 new, 1407 >>>> reinstalls, 1 interactive), Size of downloads: 76,235 kB >>>> >>>> How is that possible? Where do those upgrades, downgrades and new >>>> packages come from? What is missing from my traditional "-uDvN" >>>> command that is causing me to miss some of those updates? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Read a few of the other posts, make sure that @world is including the >>> system set. Either just use world with no @ or do a @system and @world. >>> >>> --depclean should have mentioned that when you ran it too. It does here >>> but you may be on a different version than I am. >>> >> >> Thanks for that, I didn't realize there was a difference between >> "@world" and "world". I've looked at the sets.conf file but honestly >> it is over my head. My "world_sets" file does include @system, though, >> so hopefully there was nothing wrong in that regard. >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> >> >> > > I think most installs have the system set included in world for now but > that may change in the future. As I have posted on -dev, I see the > serious need for the sets but I wish to continue using the plain world > and it update all the packages that need updating. I think the plain > world will be around for a while. There were others that agreed with > that thought. As I pointed out, if it has a @ in front, you are in the > sets section. If not, then it is the old way. Good point. I think I'll go back to using "world" instead of "@world", since when I say "world" I mean "everything" and "@world" does not (or may not) necessarily mean that. Paul