Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -e world' question

[Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I normally do "emerge -uDvN @world" (or in other words "emerge
>>>> --update --deep --verbose --newuse @world"). Right now, it tells me
>>>> this:
>>>>
>>>> Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB
>>>>
>>>> I also --depclean on a regular basis to remove any unneeded packages.
>>>> Right now, it tells me this:
>>>>
>>>> No packages selected for removal by depclean
>>>>
>>>> Based on those two commands, I'm led to believe I have a fully updated
>>>> system. So, then, I am curious why when I do "emerge -e @world" it
>>>> tells me this:
>>>>
>>>> Total: 1432 packages (9 upgrades, 2 downgrades, 14 new, 1407
>>>> reinstalls, 1 interactive), Size of downloads: 76,235 kB
>>>>
>>>> How is that possible? Where do those upgrades, downgrades and new
>>>> packages come from? What is missing from my traditional "-uDvN"
>>>> command that is causing me to miss some of those updates?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Read a few of the other posts, make sure that @world is including the
>>> system set.  Either just use world with no @ or do a @system and @world.
>>>
>>> --depclean should have mentioned that when you ran it too.  It does here
>>> but you may be on a different version than I am.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for that, I didn't realize there was a difference between
>> "@world" and "world". I've looked at the sets.conf file but honestly
>> it is over my head. My "world_sets" file does include @system, though,
>> so hopefully there was nothing wrong in that regard.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>
> I think most installs have the system set included in world for now but
> that may change in the future.  As I have posted on -dev, I see the
> serious need for the sets but I wish to continue using the plain world
> and it update all the packages that need updating.  I think the plain
> world will be around for a while.  There were others that agreed with
> that thought.  As I pointed out, if it has a @ in front, you are in the
> sets section.  If not, then it is the old way.

Good point. I think I'll go back to using "world" instead of "@world",
since when I say "world" I mean "everything" and "@world" does not (or
may not) necessarily mean that.

Paul