From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AC91381F3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90CFF21C080; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C28821C02C for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id u54so2448781wey.40 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:16:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=xYTt2A7avivP0KafsocXxhE8XqqFcME/xYxozhpTFg4=; b=zIljAdgqn46rWAyoiz+k7zWspuNsL2XCwRZ4FP2F/7x/5YfCaoX48ISbaWBxURSv9U 2CIyqqOUFi5Satrw4GkRuOW3CxOcGKojz0GSSRlBlA2khm0qeHmSa4FTzWnFSEHFWrwp 1rgJGVcBDxEclY/BL8u8RV+RdLJWnZUdKB6lHPt6pM5aVOOQDla575CdLRnF2CKLJcIA OlzUbXYDo8Wr4c5mN22uaYuE8y5gVvl9zkN9anFE3hQIdOdoNKuabKnq4msSbmoLa7Il OGfjkuZ0z7sPUQ6ZoJutj0Zp4dx5GTDk650Dw6og2oXpEbXK18zsMrMtE4hmVX5qY8/J 0Z/Q== Received: by 10.216.213.152 with SMTP id a24mr7230280wep.224.1352643371160; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from energy.localnet (p4FC60A67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.198.10.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s12sm10469720wik.11.2012.11.11.06.16.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:16:10 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: =?utf-8?B?5b6u6JSh?= Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:16:07 +0100 Message-ID: <58841589.X3ZxEsCWqm@energy> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.2 (Linux/3.4.14; KDE/4.9.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1524141.GPK41Ktrl4@gentoo> References: <20121111132241.GU17663@server> <1524141.GPK41Ktrl4@gentoo> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: 43f053fc-892c-40c8-8ca7-c3bc1be3266e X-Archives-Hash: 6f4911ad037a3d80fef61c61e0539360 Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 21:32:41 schrieb =E5=BE=AE=E8=94=A1: > =E5=9C=A8 2012=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8811=E6=97=A5 =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E6=97= =A5 07:22:41=EF=BC=8CBruce Hill =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >=20 > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrot= e: > > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't = want is > > > forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid rea= ction. > > > A > > > lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it i= s > > > forced > > > on everybody. > > >=20 > > > When systemd devs took over udev, one was told that of course, on= e could > > > use udev without [systemd] in the future. > > >=20 > > > Now they are talking about making udev systemd only. >=20 > obsolutly nonsense. what they remove , is the ability to build udev > seperately. udev can still be used without systemd. hey, you already built it and have it laying around. And all that other= stuff=20 that we are forcing upon you wants it anyway - so why don't you use it?= In 12=20 month you have to anyway... --=20 #163933