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[76.10.184.45]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p187sm60769322pfb.5.2016.09.17.12.17.48 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <201607092052.46760.robin@binro.org> <201609172026.19119.robin@binro.org> <19f9b5c3-c189-eadb-25ad-15f9f2e76186@gmail.com> <201609172216.57257.robin@binro.org> From: Daniel Frey Message-ID: <57DD96DA.4030600@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:17:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1e28c8d2-a0c0-49f1-a7e6-ddd2b001a83b X-Archives-Hash: e6b2a0bd64e691b700acd1ff95dfb426 On 09/17/2016 12:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 17/09/2016 17:16, Robin Atwood wrote: >> On Saturday 17 September 2016, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> What a peculiar odd thing to say. You might want to revisit your word >> >>> choice there. >> >> >> >> Perhaps you're right. Unfortunately I don't have the time currently to >> fight with ebuilds so I will declare my system, in IBM's immortal >> expression, "functionally stabilised"! It does everything I need it to >> so updates are not really necessary. I looked into the KDE5 upgrade >> recently and what I read did not inspire me with confidence. > > > KDE5 works well enough, I've been using it here for months. There are > recurring reports of icons going missing and other uber-annoying > cosmetic issues, but I find the software quite functional. I like to actually *use* my computer though, not fight the DE. When I tried it months ago, plasma would crash every 10 seconds on its own. KDE5 won't be stable until another year at the minimum. After installing it and having the crashing (and other issues, but the main one was the constant crashing) I had no desire to put up with a broken DE for years like my experience with KDE4. Hell, with KDE4 it took them two years to put back basic functionality like a fully-functional systemsettings. > > One thing KDE5 isn't though, is KDE4++ :-) > > If KDE4 is really what you want, then you best stick with it. > It sure isn't easy though. I've stopped updating my computer and I probably won't try KDE5 until middle next year. Hopefully by then it'll actually be *usable*. It would have been nice if they snapshotted kde4 7-8 months ago and put the entirety in kde-sunset before messing with ebuilds and creating cross-version dependencies. Dan