[gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Fernando Rodriguez]

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Hello,

Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for
icons and styles? 
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Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 19/07/2016 20:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for
> icons and styles? 
> 


plasma-desktop:


alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so
 * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so ...
kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so)
alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so
 * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so ...
kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so)



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Fernando Rodriguez]

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On 07/19/2016 03:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 19/07/2016 20:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for
>> icons and styles? 
>>
> 
> 
> plasma-desktop:
> 
> 
> alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so
>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so ...
> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so)
> alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so
>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so ...
> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so)
> 
> 
> 

Thanks. I thought it should've been a separate package since it affects
all kde5 apps, not just the desktop.

How are non-plasma5 users supposed to change these settings?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 19/07/2016 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On 07/19/2016 03:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 19/07/2016 20:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for
>>> icons and styles? 
>>>
> 
> 
>> plasma-desktop:
> 
> 
>> alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so
>>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so ...
>> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so)
>> alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so
>>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so ...
>> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks. I thought it should've been a separate package since it affects
> all kde5 apps, not just the desktop.
> 
> How are non-plasma5 users supposed to change these settings?
> 
> 


I have no idea, but I think we should wait for someone to have a
brighter idea than mine. My test was to rename those .so files
temporarily and see that system settings was broken (error message was
"plugin not found").

It might be that those plugins are merely the plasma desktop's way of
making changes (all they really need do is adjust some lines in files),
so maybe plasma team expects others to write more stand-alone tools?

But I dunno really, I'm just guessing


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Fernando Rodriguez]

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On 07/19/2016 04:26 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 19/07/2016 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>> On 07/19/2016 03:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On 19/07/2016 20:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for
>>>> icons and styles? 
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> plasma-desktop:
>>
>>
>>> alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so
>>>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so ...
>>> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so)
>>> alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so
>>>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so ...
>>> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks. I thought it should've been a separate package since it affects
>> all kde5 apps, not just the desktop.
>>
>> How are non-plasma5 users supposed to change these settings?
>>
>>
> 
> 
> I have no idea, but I think we should wait for someone to have a
> brighter idea than mine. My test was to rename those .so files
> temporarily and see that system settings was broken (error message was
> "plugin not found").

They're registered by a .desktop file somewhere in /usr/share. You can
start them through kcmshell5 even without the systemsettings app installed.

> It might be that those plugins are merely the plasma desktop's way of
> making changes (all they really need do is adjust some lines in files),
> so maybe plasma team expects others to write more stand-alone tools?
> 
> But I dunno really, I'm just guessing
> 

I'm thinking about filing a bug because they really don't belong in the
desktop package. Does anyone knows how feasible it is to split them?


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Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Fernando Rodriguez]

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On 07/19/2016 04:26 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 19/07/2016 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>> On 07/19/2016 03:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On 19/07/2016 20:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for
>>>> icons and styles? 
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> plasma-desktop:
>>
>>
>>> alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so
>>>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so ...
>>> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so)
>>> alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so
>>>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so ...
>>> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks. I thought it should've been a separate package since it affects
>> all kde5 apps, not just the desktop.
>>
>> How are non-plasma5 users supposed to change these settings?
>>
>>
> 
> 
> I have no idea, but I think we should wait for someone to have a
> brighter idea than mine. My test was to rename those .so files
> temporarily and see that system settings was broken (error message was
> "plugin not found").
> 
> It might be that those plugins are merely the plasma desktop's way of
> making changes (all they really need do is adjust some lines in files),
> so maybe plasma team expects others to write more stand-alone tools?
> 
> But I dunno really, I'm just guessing

This is fucking ridiculous. Baloo's kcm module is also part of plasma-desktop!
Now after being forced to update it the indexer is making my system very
unresponsive and I can't turn it off!


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Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Daniel Frey]

On 07/20/2016 05:06 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> This is fucking ridiculous. Baloo's kcm module is also part of plasma-desktop!
> Now after being forced to update it the indexer is making my system very
> unresponsive and I can't turn it off!
> 
> 
> 

Have you tried balooctl to turn it off? I think that's how I did it when
I tried plasma months ago.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 20 Jul 2016 20:37:58 Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 07/20/2016 05:06 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > This is fucking ridiculous. Baloo's kcm module is also part of
> > plasma-desktop! Now after being forced to update it the indexer is making
> > my system very unresponsive and I can't turn it off!
> 
> Have you tried balooctl to turn it off? I think that's how I did it when
> I tried plasma months ago.
> 
> Dan

I wasn't aware of this!  It seems baloo has been busy all on its own:

$ balooctl status
Baloo File Indexer is not running
Indexed 6412 / 7195 files
Current size of index is 79.07 MiB

$ balooctl config show includeFolders
/home/michael

So it's been indexing my whole /home directory.  Will issuing a disable 
command survive a reboot?

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Daniel Frey]

On 07/20/2016 10:37 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 Jul 2016 20:37:58 Daniel Frey wrote:
>> On 07/20/2016 05:06 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>> This is fucking ridiculous. Baloo's kcm module is also part of
>>> plasma-desktop! Now after being forced to update it the indexer is making
>>> my system very unresponsive and I can't turn it off!
>>
>> Have you tried balooctl to turn it off? I think that's how I did it when
>> I tried plasma months ago.
>>
>> Dan
> 
> I wasn't aware of this!  It seems baloo has been busy all on its own:
> 
> $ balooctl status
> Baloo File Indexer is not running
> Indexed 6412 / 7195 files
> Current size of index is 79.07 MiB
> 
> $ balooctl config show includeFolders
> /home/michael
> 
> So it's been indexing my whole /home directory.  Will issuing a disable 
> command survive a reboot?
> 

It's supposed to. It did for me for a while (i.e. several reboots) then
it started again. People have been reporting it works and doesn't work
so maybe it depends on the environment it's running in. There's other
baloo-related command line tools but I don't remember them now.

I think I got annoyed at one point with all the freezing and crashing
(and I thought it was baloo even though it was disabled) and eventually
deleted all of the baloo* files, but plasma still kept crashing.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Mick]

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On Thursday 21 Jul 2016 07:45:41 Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 07/20/2016 10:37 PM, Mick wrote:
> > On Wednesday 20 Jul 2016 20:37:58 Daniel Frey wrote:
> >> On 07/20/2016 05:06 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> >>> This is fucking ridiculous. Baloo's kcm module is also part of
> >>> plasma-desktop! Now after being forced to update it the indexer is
> >>> making
> >>> my system very unresponsive and I can't turn it off!
> >> 
> >> Have you tried balooctl to turn it off? I think that's how I did it when
> >> I tried plasma months ago.
> >> 
> >> Dan
> > 
> > I wasn't aware of this!  It seems baloo has been busy all on its own:
> > 
> > $ balooctl status
> > Baloo File Indexer is not running
> > Indexed 6412 / 7195 files
> > Current size of index is 79.07 MiB
> > 
> > $ balooctl config show includeFolders
> > /home/michael
> > 
> > So it's been indexing my whole /home directory.  Will issuing a disable
> > command survive a reboot?
> 
> It's supposed to. It did for me for a while (i.e. several reboots) then
> it started again. People have been reporting it works and doesn't work
> so maybe it depends on the environment it's running in. There's other
> baloo-related command line tools but I don't remember them now.
> 
> I think I got annoyed at one point with all the freezing and crashing
> (and I thought it was baloo even though it was disabled) and eventually
> deleted all of the baloo* files, but plasma still kept crashing.
> 
> Dan

I've rebooted:

$ balooctl status
Baloo is currently disabled. To enable, please run "balooctl enable"

Nice!  :-)

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Daniel Frey]

On 07/21/2016 11:07 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 21 Jul 2016 07:45:41 Daniel Frey wrote:
>> On 07/20/2016 10:37 PM, Mick wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 20 Jul 2016 20:37:58 Daniel Frey wrote:
>>>> On 07/20/2016 05:06 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>>>> This is fucking ridiculous. Baloo's kcm module is also part of
>>>>> plasma-desktop! Now after being forced to update it the indexer is
>>>>> making
>>>>> my system very unresponsive and I can't turn it off!
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried balooctl to turn it off? I think that's how I did it when
>>>> I tried plasma months ago.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>
>>> I wasn't aware of this!  It seems baloo has been busy all on its own:
>>>
>>> $ balooctl status
>>> Baloo File Indexer is not running
>>> Indexed 6412 / 7195 files
>>> Current size of index is 79.07 MiB
>>>
>>> $ balooctl config show includeFolders
>>> /home/michael
>>>
>>> So it's been indexing my whole /home directory.  Will issuing a disable
>>> command survive a reboot?
>>
>> It's supposed to. It did for me for a while (i.e. several reboots) then
>> it started again. People have been reporting it works and doesn't work
>> so maybe it depends on the environment it's running in. There's other
>> baloo-related command line tools but I don't remember them now.
>>
>> I think I got annoyed at one point with all the freezing and crashing
>> (and I thought it was baloo even though it was disabled) and eventually
>> deleted all of the baloo* files, but plasma still kept crashing.
>>
>> Dan
> 
> I've rebooted:
> 
> $ balooctl status
> Baloo is currently disabled. To enable, please run "balooctl enable"
> 
> Nice!  :-)
> 

I do believe it leaves the index in place, you'll still have to remove
that manually. I don't think there was a command to clear the index but
I could be mistaken.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

[Fernando Rodriguez]

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On 07/20/2016 11:37 PM, Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 07/20/2016 05:06 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>> This is fucking ridiculous. Baloo's kcm module is also part of plasma-desktop!
>> Now after being forced to update it the indexer is making my system very
>> unresponsive and I can't turn it off!
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Have you tried balooctl to turn it off? I think that's how I did it when
> I tried plasma months ago.
> 
> Dan
> 

No, I didn't knew about it. Thanks.
It finished indexing after a whole day and seems to be behaving now.


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