From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F34D11382FE for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F1F921C046; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f53.google.com (mail-wm0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A05CE0B49 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f53.google.com with SMTP id k123so68904439wme.0 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:55:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AfE/rgAIARFnV+AS6iCEsMCv13kymcL/b9RLzUTATBM=; b=v6Oz0kdH6oiK1m9XiyWeawS0WW6zuqxtW/vrWlXtq8VTZe9qiUGNrk5hWRzughqzbY OHhe2PY8OobGQYOzn0lhhqMURQ3HhgNPEXc/xrwr3rRFik7RoztM/Ae+KfLtHoghr5Z+ mvj/5uPqnVO6lap4vZTu/i5Pj40At8Vi0Uzroe4TY7Jkei3JcVja+jVlqnhEJj2BsrfB q4OvcOe0bgukTPblfET1Mw4/7YpH6PWxZ63HAeZClbtXMC/XqJ9e1fRxt2cUKIvboaUF VnTU6tYXiEsjax0RjLstQaLpzm7IlLEwN6qAXwn6imLBh09EG80dFB4VGzFBD6MLR8Gb wARA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AfE/rgAIARFnV+AS6iCEsMCv13kymcL/b9RLzUTATBM=; b=K9nuZ5JtQ86yUyOwHflwytCH112uZ1gMzi7nY52DzhbpHpK7nsIheORhyaw+/UUJTE i1gFcOLnY/VTEv6fUFa4PzCy0Icgtr6oQVd+5U22JMG9ORopa+0CnbUQnUIN0rI+V7eo Ip13AE2TI1Qiq8SOWkFO7VlOvOBnFZZw+9QA/FjAEuxCzP/YOIT2OqxFddvlPkv257jb raog6EkyHubudEZDUO8zw9U7bKDP6M9jN+xHaDC02hxOf5LkHyJGOxBq5sbPRUsM/gsk ybBeK3C3AfHjV0SRU6ghZVI7GQWVB68iJTvf8pKvfEEOp+9KH9BQTCyNVn9r9GlqBXBe qccg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLhnG6uOVp25739dQvRdbY03tTP3pWJ3P5lFeoPs9XtaY88Ql+w9QX0XhNYZNaZUg== X-Received: by 10.28.94.18 with SMTP id s18mr9011142wmb.42.1468173327362; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.56] ([196.212.62.210]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v70sm15724867wmf.18.2016.07.10.10.55.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <201607092052.46760.robin@binro.org> <1729511.aGqk2Y6HsY@peak> <5781B6AF.9080702@gmail.com> <1603989.ayNOSh4UCQ@peak> <20160710184359.3e132324@digimed.co.uk> From: Alan McKinnon Message-ID: <57828C0D.50301@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:55:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160710184359.3e132324@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ffb86f12-5a6e-4f97-9dbe-4c3bde5ca6cb X-Archives-Hash: 6d42cf7deafa7be1f41c9a22a85d2291 On 10/07/2016 19:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:22:32 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> The KDE project are notorious for that, or at least in my book they >> are. I told them last year that if I'd allowed an embryonic KDE-4 out >> the door the way they did I'd have been out of a job quicker than you >> could say "quality control." > > The KDE project clearly stated that the first few KDE releases were not > production ready and should be considered betas, at best. The problem was > caused by distros that went ahead and included KDE 4.1 nonetheless. > Probably because they liked the higher version number :( > > The distros did worse than that - most of them just dropped KDE-4.1 on the users and removed KDE-3. People were left with something that couldn't possibly work. What they should have done is marked KDE-4.1 as "optional/experimental"