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[79.193.14.49]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j9sm18544877wju.46.2016.05.30.18.00.31 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 May 2016 18:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <5749C1AE.5020905@verizon.net> <20160528111929.503f9bbd@sepulchrave.remarqs> <5749D00C.4030408@gmail.com> <5749E469.7020601@gmail.com> <5749E832.1030404@gmail.com> <5749F761.7020803@googlemail.com> <20160528215322.12a267c2@digimed.co.uk> <574ADCCF.9000602@verizon.net> <574B2C10.3070601@gmail.com> <574CDBAF.2010706@verizon.net> From: Volker Armin Hemmann Message-ID: <574CE22F.8030605@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 03:00:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <574CDBAF.2010706@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4b4ee42f-2932-49da-93a5-38209a1311d2 X-Archives-Hash: ed8200c3f73fe5c849207b91b61ad51b Am 31.05.2016 um 02:32 schrieb Alan Grimes: > Dale wrote: >> Do you really want a answer to that? Seriously? You asked so I guess >> you do. Here it is. Yes! lol The way you do things, and continue to >> do things, even after having several VERY experienced users tell you >> that the way you are doing things is wrong pretty much says it all. If >> I post that I was doing something and getting a bad result and someone >> such as Neil and/or Alan McKinnon tells me I am doing it wrong, you can >> bet your last dollar that I am about to change how I do things. Why, if >> either or both of them tell me I am doing something wrong, I'm doing it >> wrong. If I continue to do things the same way, well, that would be my >> fault not members of this list or emerge/portage. So far, I don't >> recall seeing a single post that supports how your script is set up. >> Not one, except you of course. > This is linux, not Windows 10. doing stupid things is stupid. No matter which system you are using. > > The key difference is that I get to decide how I want my computer to > run. =| if you decide to act stupid, don't complain. > > What I am saying is that recent changes have broken a usage pattern that I was quite content with for more than a decade. =\ so you got away with stupid behaviour for a while, but now reality has caught up with you. But instead of rethinking your approach or listening to the advise of others you insist on continuing with your broken crap. Sounds stupid. > >> Here's a idea. Since YOU are the only one having this problem, why >> don't YOU change what you are doing to something that actually works? >> What you are doing doesn't work. Try something else. Funny how those >> "stupid" checks work for everyone else. > I'm at 193/250 right now so therefore all discussion of changing my > procedures is tabled until the next time I have troubles (next month...) pretty much whenever your run your stupid script. > > I mentioned this before. If you keep posting but then refuse to accept > help, people will start ignoring or blocking your messages. Based on > the posts that I see, I suspect some may have already. At some point, > even I will. I've only ever blocked one other person on this list. I > can see that doubling at some point because you don't come here for help > or accept any when it is given. You just come here to gripe about > things not working like you want when it is your method that is broken. > <<<< > > > May I remind you that most modern software has a "check for updates" button that is fully automated... > > May I also point out that the stated gentoo update process, of "emerge sync ; emerge --update world rarely actually works or does not have the intended effect without a several dozen qualifiers. I point out here that the qualifiers I use were selected from the ones provided by portage. really? just tried. It worked. What am I doing wrong?