From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046B613829B for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 09:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F0F414327; Sun, 29 May 2016 09:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com (mail-yw0-f193.google.com [209.85.161.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BF8914267 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 09:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f193.google.com with SMTP id j74so11611460ywg.1 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 02:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lsCHUl3Ujpb16RbaSfOSUf9MoPWuAxpsttIjogWC7IM=; b=ZlUgNDAf9wBSlQzCQSXmvBMRjywWTfyZulP+iVpIU6fRQWvH+0Si5fs2YGCTIFHqtp LSZeg8EoOQmhqmnInhJkGxHkQmIUyovqHlZY4lTi9SmnUWm7Iaqc/NUeR1MTCM7Kj4X0 GKUG3rpAi+hXOVSAFgBNteGNgBil1uM5cXTmW9fKi2EuMV60EjQHUyKjSm5HSsmXiXPj VzJKJasEIoorubK6JflQIGptM5RIwiHHfnS71IWLMmCQQEMG2cwaaK29e7QeJNT55WAw QhQp/LoCFWNtUxWKBlj6W6O/aYG4IRTxa9MWy5sFwqlNsPsEeHsALFZ+/L7adAVLpcet U2ow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lsCHUl3Ujpb16RbaSfOSUf9MoPWuAxpsttIjogWC7IM=; b=Jgr+37nNYyCSSAIR4SQBpk+Yqa+hhPY3mcZE9UuulCDUke1urjEwMfim18fZclqfWC xJJ7GSURFasyI6cdj8Quw8FrtySVsgdFjTAzkL/s4wsCuAC21JZC7zhsn/B41o3rHBKp NQbsQzfZ95Ffn4K8UeRjEvONP4Zn4I+7oSCduoULHm0SaQ8BDq8jVMNj84AuUBr+L1rs 0S+Pvh1D4TLH95rvyIagN+EyHWT+rxFqp/81BxZJXZr1Mrd8Gl1wBkaGQT5C0IqBiife lle68HfSKIyTxo+YYcnjcZVHvPia7pgm3cH7Xj0weXweUqqFGlKS68uj/80opvj++tUL Y1Cw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIcsPeLJXr/NQjWK06jxcq24X4TTaEyT/8NSVcfgmRVaOO6owvKCMF/uX7i02CRFQ== X-Received: by 10.13.203.4 with SMTP id n4mr13091414ywd.217.1464514125483; Sun, 29 May 2016 02:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-95-182.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.95.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m188sm10417160ywe.46.2016.05.29.02.28.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 May 2016 02:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <5749C1AE.5020905@verizon.net> <20160528111929.503f9bbd@sepulchrave.remarqs> <5749D00C.4030408@gmail.com> <5749E469.7020601@gmail.com> <5749E832.1030404@gmail.com> <5749F761.7020803@googlemail.com> <20160528215322.12a267c2@digimed.co.uk> <574AA83F.1000502@alstadheim.priv.no> From: Dale Message-ID: <574AB64C.8030708@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 04:28:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <574AA83F.1000502@alstadheim.priv.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: e05ed8ff-88aa-4fb8-90ac-832e6eb6876c X-Archives-Hash: 393e34dc5b5fc655cbf9dec3a34f1b3d H=C3=A5kon Alstadheim wrote: > Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury: >> WOW! >> >> Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as if Gentoo was a binary >> distribution >> that handles it all upstream. He doesn't want to take the time to >> review what >> emerge is proposing and see if changes are needed first. >> > It IS actually possible to do that, at least for non-critical systems. > Just make sure to mail yourself with the emerge output, so you can fix > things before the next automatic run. > > The point being that you don't have to sit and watch while emerge works= =2E > You can have the output of any blocks or failures waiting for you in > your inbox at your convenience. > > For this to work in a timely fashion you need to stay on stable package= s > as much as possible, and also keep other customizations to a minimum, > e.g. don't use --autounmask-write. > Thing is, that's not what Alan seems to want. Alan wants something like Ubuntu or something where you tell it to upgrade and then walk away without checking anything. Yea, you can script some things like syncing, emailing a -p output to yourself and such but all that requires a break in the process and Alan doesn't seem to get that part. Alan wants to type in one command and not put any effort into checking what will be done or needs changing.=20 I run a desktop here and it's not like my life or anything depends on it. There is no way I would do blind updates on this system for any reason. If I'm to busy to do my part, I wait until another time to do the updates.=20 Dale :-) :-)=20