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[74.240.55.145]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f195sm8828823vke.21.2016.04.16.09.25.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 16 Apr 2016 09:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Calm To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20160416144850.GA15693@acm.fritz.box> From: Dale Message-ID: <57126773.1090105@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 11:25:23 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000908030702060806010304" X-Archives-Salt: 0698c4b7-2101-42bb-8f2a-26df7d104a3b X-Archives-Hash: 1373becffd3135ffbfd3b4534ce68d89 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000908030702060806010304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Top posting since John started it. lol=20 Can you two explain this to Alan Grimes? He seems to think emerge has some very serious problems. ;-)=20 I might add, I recently went through the KDE plasma update which involved a ton of rebuilds/upgrades. Since I run a mix of stable and unstable, it took some effort to get it all sorted BUT emerge did a pretty good job of telling me what was needed. Once I got the proper things in the keyword and USE file, it was off to compile land for several hours. I might add, I had to use some of Alan McKinnion's logic to understand emerge's output.=20 I might add, I also recently did a emerge -e world. Out of all the over 1,400 packages installed on this machine, only one failed. I can't recall the package name but I seem to recall keywording to a newer version and that worked. Still, 1 out of over 1400 packages. That's pretty dang good. About 99.9% success. Almost like 24 caret gold.=20 It seems you two are not alone on being some happy Gentooers. :-D=20 Dale :-) :-) John Blinka wrote: > I've been meaning to write such a post for some time now. Thanks for > prompting me to add my 2 cents. > > I've been using Gentoo for perhaps 15 years. There have been a few > rough patches along the way resolved by new reinstalls, but overall > this has been by far the best computing environment I've ever used.=20 > (And one of the best online communities I've ever lurked in.) I > remember feeling quite apprehensive at my first install after giving > the Handbook my first look, but that install went well, and I've never > looked back. I've been able to transition from using Gentoo as a > professional development system for large scale parallel numerical > stuff, to using it for some personal work in medical informatics, and > lately digital photography. In general, I've found that Gentoo just > works, given a little effort to understand how to make it work via its > truly wonderful array of well written documentation. I really like > the ease with which I've been able to venture into new categories of > software and computing. Every time I've needed something new, it's > been in portage and has been fairly easy to install, configure, and use= =2E > > I recently had to do reinstalls on all my systems due to disk > failures. Took a few days, but I've been living in a sweet spot ever > since, with everything working perfectly on all systems. > > Thanks to all who've made this possible! > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Alan Mackenzie > wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo. > > I'm just saying hello to confirm I'm still here. > > For many months now, Gentoo has simply worked for me, without > problems. > I sync my system several times a week, and emerge just works. > > The last bit of excitement I had was in early 2015 when I was > trying to > sort out the mess in my xfce4 system after gnome-3 had been made > stable. > In the end, I gave up and reinstalled Gentoo, which this time took = me > only a week. > > Admittedly, there's very little which is cutting edge on my system > - the > box is 6=C2=BD years old, it boots with lilo on an old fashioned BI= OS, my > filesystems are ext3 (or in one case, ext2) on spinning rust. The > only > remotely adventurous things I've got are RAID-1 (via the kernel) an= d > lvm2. > > So a big thanks to all the developers who've brought about this hap= py > state of affairs! > > -- > Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). > > --------------000908030702060806010304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Top posting since John started it.  lol 

Can you two explain this to Alan Grimes?  He seems to think emerge has some very serious problems.  ;-) 

I might add, I recently went through the KDE plasma update which involved a ton of rebuilds/upgrades.  Since I run a mix of stable and unstable, it took some effort to get it all sorted BUT emerge did a pretty good job of telling me what was needed.  Once I got the proper things in the keyword and USE file, it was off to compile land for several hours.  I might add, I had to use some of Alan McKinnion's logic to understand emerge's output. 

I might add, I also recently did a emerge -e world.  Out of all the over 1,400 packages installed on this machine, only one failed.  I can't recall the package name but I seem to recall keywording to a newer version and that worked.  Still, 1 out of over 1400 packages.  That's pretty dang good.  About 99.9% success.  Almost like 24 caret gold. 

It seems you two are not alone on being some happy Gentooers.  :-D 

Dale

:-)  :-)



John Blinka wrote:
I've been meaning to write such a post for some time now.  Thanks for prompting me to add my 2 cents.

I've been using Gentoo for perhaps 15 years.  There have been a few rough patches along the way resolved by new reinstalls, but overall this has been by far the best computing environment I've ever used.  (And one of the best online communities I've ever lurked in.)  I remember feeling quite apprehensive at my first install after giving the Handbook my first look, but that install went well, and I've never looked back.  I've been able to transition from using Gentoo as a professional development system for large scale parallel numerical stuff, to using it for some personal work in medical informatics, and lately digital photography.  In general, I've found that Gentoo just works, given a little effort to understand how to make it work via its truly wonderful array of well written documentation.  I really like the ease with which I've been able to venture into new categories of software and computing. Every time I've needed something new, it's been in portage and has been fairly easy to install, configure, and use.

I recently had to do reinstalls on all my systems due to disk failures.  Took a few days, but I've been living in a sweet spot ever since, with everything working perfectly on all systems.

Thanks to all who've made this possible!

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
Hello, Gentoo.

I'm just saying hello to confirm I'm still here.

For many months now, Gentoo has simply worked for me, without problems.
I sync my system several times a week, and emerge just works.

The last bit of excitement I had was in early 2015 when I was trying to
sort out the mess in my xfce4 system after gnome-3 had been made stable.
In the end, I gave up and reinstalled Gentoo, which this time took me
only a week.

Admittedly, there's very little which is cutting edge on my system - the
box is 6½ years old, it boots with lilo on an old fashioned BIOS, my
filesystems are ext3 (or in one case, ext2) on spinning rust.  The only
remotely adventurous things I've got are RAID-1 (via the kernel) and
lvm2.

So a big thanks to all the developers who've brought about this happy
state of affairs!

--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



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